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Hi! I'm GeneralWiggins and this is my Pokemon story
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Welcome to, as the pokeball turns, where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon.
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My name is David Hernandez.
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Today, I'm joined by General Wiggins, leader of the Staryu Army.
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General, welcome to As the Pokeball Turns.
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are you today, man?
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I'm doing pretty good, man.
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And thank you for coming on the show.
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We look forward to kind of diving into your experience with the franchise.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I've never really talked about it before outside of just on Twitch where it's, just kind of comes up as we're doing, whatever, since I'm just staring at things waiting for the odds to bless me.
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so it's always just been like bits and pieces completely out of order.
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typically next to no context, cause you know, something will pop up in my head and I'll just blurt it out for 20 minutes and then go on to talk about something that has nothing to do with it.
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Now you said with the odds.
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So I guess I know one thing you enjoy doing is you enjoy shiny hunting, right?
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right now we're going after a Gen 1 Articuno, And we are at 38, 250.
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the odds are making very good friends with me.
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You and Articuno are becoming very close friends in Seafoam Islands, I
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Unfortunately.
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Unfortunately.
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What is it about shiny hunting that you enjoy?
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Cause that's clearly one of the parts that you do in regards to streaming.
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Um, I have like really bad ADHD when I'm doing basically anything.
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So like even right now, while we're doing this, I'm shoddy hunting.
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Because it is the only thing that I can focus on continually because like while I'm doing any like regular job Like I go over contracts for my dad and I'm going over contracts for a few other small businesses if I'm not Doing like eight things at once with that.
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I can't get anything done.
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Whereas with Shiny Hunting or Nuzlocke or anything like that, I can actually actively focus on it.
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and I don't know why, it just worked out that way.
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so it sounds like you use the shiny hunting to kind of hyper focus, to prevents you from like getting distracted from other things.
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Is that fair to
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Yeah, I think that sums it up pretty well.
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When did you kind of discover how shiny hunting helped your ADHD?
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I don't really know, because I don't think I noticed that it helped me until Twitch.
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Really?
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it.
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Um, like 2013 or 2014.
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and I just started going for Legends in, HeartGold, SoulSilver.
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And my first shiny hunt that I did actively was Lugia.
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and then after that showed after a few months of doing it after work each day, I went for Ho Oh, and then I failed Ho Oh, and I stopped shiny hunting until Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon.
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That just scarred you for life, like, oh my gosh, I just,
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I just, I put it to sleep and I just do Ultra Ball after Ultra Ball after Ultra Ball and then I just watched it struggle itself slowly down.
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I was like, well, I don't want to play this game anymore for a while.
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I am
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horrible.
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That must have been the horrible way to lose your shiny.
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I guess it does happen though, shiny hunting.
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I've still never reclaimed that.
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Um, I'm working on a shiny badge quest right now in, in HeartGold.
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The ultimate goal to get Ho Oh and I'm gonna have, definitely gonna have a Master Ball ready for this one.
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Okay, you're going to go in with all guns blazing at this point.
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I don't want to, I don't want to fail it a second time, especially not live.
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That's how I felt too when I had a hundo lugia one time.
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And I tried to do every single ball trying to catch it.
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And of course, after that, it just was gone.
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And I'm like, so defeating, like I stayed up that night.
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That's how traumatizing it was for me.
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I can only imagine for you because it was actually a shiny ho ho.
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yeah, I just, I, I shut the game and I was like, well, I'm gonna, I don't even remember what I did.
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I don't remember, I don't remember much beyond the next morning waking up and just sitting on the edge of the bed, and just staring at my hands.
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What have I
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Yeah, I was like, oh.
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Is life even worth it anymore?
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The ho's gone.
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that dramatic,
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It felt like that at
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Oh, it did.
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So you talked about how, you know, you started with Lugia and Ho Ho shiny hunting.
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was that kind of like your first time diving into Pokemon or was there even more before
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No, I've been in it since basically the beginning.
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one of my friends had the game, so I asked for it for Christmas, and I ended up getting lucky enough that my parents got myself and my sister, each a Game Boy and one of the games.
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so I started out on Pokemon Blue.
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first Pokemon Bulbasaur, cause all my friends chose Charmander and I
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Yeah, let's go.
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Bulbasaur Supremacy, we believe in it here.
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Yeah, Bulbasaur's fantastic.
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I didn't really understand what I was doing with the game.
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I do remember the first time I beat it.
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I was at my cousin's basketball game.
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I'm pretty sure it was his middle school game.
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I don't think in high school yet.
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and when I beat Lance, I actively got up and cheered.
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My battery was low, so my light was flashing at me.
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I was like, it was way more intense than it had any right to be.
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and then, once gold and silver came out and I kind of understood the game and I understood what I was doing in it.
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And I actually, you know, I'd played through, blue a few, dozen times.
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I completed the decks in my sister's red.
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That was cool.
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I learned about the glitch mew.
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That was sick.
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but yeah, then gold and silver came out and my first run through of it.
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fun enough while grinding for misty.
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I found a shiny Drowzee.
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Really?
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and I was like, man, that's really cool.
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It sparkles and it's a different color.
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So I caught it.
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I put it in the boxes and I never touched it again.
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So, and
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call that, Pepto Bismol for drowsy.
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And that Pokemon just died with the battery, unfortunately.
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I never, I never did anything with it.
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but that was always a fun story for that.
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Finding the first shiny before even seeing the Gyarados.
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And just being like, oh that's neat! And then just shoving it in a box to rot forever.
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Oh my gosh.
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a wave.
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What a life for drowsy.
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Er, Drowzee, that's the one.
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You know, it seems like you live life on the edge.
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Cause you know, you talked about, you know, you play the basketball game and your battery's about to run out.
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Then you ran out of pokeball or ran out of ultra balls trying to get shiny.
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Oh, you just live life on the edge sometimes.
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Yeah, I
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At least for Pokemon,
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especialy with Shiny hunting in the newer games..
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the odds are very much in your favor.
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If there's a Mon that's being stubborn, I'll just throw something at him.
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Like, alright, like, one of my first interactions with SBCoop, he popped into the chat when we were Shiny hunting Pikachu.
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We found the Pikachu, I had an Ash Hat Pikachu out while hunting it, and it wouldn't stay in the ball.
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So I was just like, well, I have no idea if this kills, but I'm gonna hit it with a Thunder Punch.
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So that does happen a lot.
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Hell, some of my most fun hunts have been going after, various mons that have explosion or self destruct or whatever.
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what's the, the, the one that, Memento! I like to go after them with no way for them to stop it.
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Just cause, I'm gonna find them again eventually, you know.
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Oh wow, so you just comment like, Oh, if it uses a self destruct or Memento or explosion, then I'll find it again.
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Yeah, it always ends up being super anticlimactic.
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I did it with Gigalith, hard resets for a strong spawn in I'm pretty sure it Sword.
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And we found it like a hundred and some odd encounters in, and I caught it like the second dive ball I threw.
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didn't damage it, just threw the ball and waited.
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it was a real bummer for me when it didn't blow up the first time I found it.
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Uh, as weird as that is to say.
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It's like, Oh, it's just shiny, just self destructed!
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Hell yeah, shiny Gigalith, throw dive balls, I have like no chance to catch it.
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Oh, it clicked.
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Well, what do I do now?
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That was, this was supposed to take me days.
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It took me hour.
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Well, I was going to say, I get it.
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Cause it would have been more, I guess, satisfying.
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Had there been a couple of turns, except for two, like maybe gone to like eight or nine, and then at that point, it's like a clock is ticking before it actually does use it.
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I think that would have been more satisfying.
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Yeah, no, it was, I don't remember what else I got that day, but I got something else.
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let me ask you this because I know shiny hunting is I would say a little easier nowadays compared the older games.
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Do you enjoy more the older game style of shiny hunting or the newer games.
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Do you have a preference?
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I guess it depends.
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As lame as an answer as that is, like, if I'm, deep in the odds right now on a Gen 1 hunt, which is something I didn't even know was possible until a few years ago.
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but like, I have just as much fun doing that as I do just booting up Scarlet and Violet or Legends Arceus and running around aimlessly because like, With the older games, I'll plan out hunts more.
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My goal right now is to have a full Pokemon Gold cartridge.
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With every single Dex entry shiny.
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that Include the unknown letters like you'll get
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Uh, no, because you can only do I and V in Generation 2.
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I forgot about that.
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Yeah.
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Mm hmm.
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I didn't know that until, what's weird is I watched, Coop Hunt them, and I heard him say something about that, but I was just zoned out doing God knows what.
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and he had mentioned, that only two of them could be shiny, and I was like, oh, cool, and I just put that memory somewhere until after I reread it again.
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I was like, oh, sh you know, shit, I knew that.
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Um, but like, for the older games, I'll plan out more hunts.
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for the newer games I can get on and just run around and do whatever and find, you know, an outbreak or, do the MMOs in RCS or just run into random Pokemon in Sword and Shield and have just as much fun.
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Now, clearly a lot of experience with the Pokemon franchise.
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Do you have a particular favorite generation or set of games that you enjoyed?
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Generation 2, just because it was when I first started understanding was going on.
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and now that I'm older and I know how the game works, like yeah, the level creep, or the level flatline bothers me a lot.
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and the, the lack of use of Generation 2 mods by Gen 2 Gym Leaders bothers me, but I try not to talk about that too much because it's like, I've noticed, especially recently, it's a bigger point whenever you bring those games up.
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There's always at least one to five people that'll, you know, bring that up.
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And it felt like there was a negative aura around it.
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it's tough because I know Gen 2 is very loved.
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I think card gold, silver, really outdid themselves on that generation.
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But specifically just talking about the gold, silver crystal games.
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I remember like Chuck, for example, only had a Poliwrath and I think a Machoke or something like
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Primate.
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Primate I'm sorry.
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Which is very disappointing.
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exactly.
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Like, why didn't you have him on top?
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Or at least Tyrogue of all things, you know,
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Yeah, he's, he's well, I guess he's not really a very good gym leader.
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He's at least the fifth one.
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But like, yeah, give him, Hitmantop, please.
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You know like really kind of implement these like new and maybe it's cuz Pokemon's more younger like implement these new Pokemon into these gym Leads a little bit.
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I know they did a good job with Whitney with its melting God forbid.
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We remember that one,
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Is that only Gen 2 fighting type they added?
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Hitmontop and Tyrogue
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Oh, and Heracross
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and Heracross they could add a Heracross.
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Heracross would have been perfect
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Yeah, that would have been great, because you could have gotten him by that point.
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Hitmantop, I think, was, uh, I think it might have been a little later, but maybe you could get to him at that point.
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I don't know, I've, I've, I never ran a hitman top on my team.
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I did hair across once.
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And Faulkner, the very first one, give him a hoot hoot! Give the man a, an owl!
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Give him a who just literally if you played at night, you would have ran into
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Yeah, you ran into frickin a thousand of them before you got there.
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and then you could have gave bugsy either a Ledian or a Spinarak.
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I don't think it involved
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Oh, you could've done, you could've done it on, version exclusive for that.
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That would've been great.
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Exactly or like get the opposite.
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So if you play gold, you would have gotten I think spinner rack or no, you would have gotten lady, but and then silver would have gotten the spinarack.
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I think I got my generations correct.
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Uh, yeah, you got the generations correct.
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I think you got the mods correct, too.
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I'm not
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I don't
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Not 100%.
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You started saying names and my brain went, yeah, that one!
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That one, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The opposite cartridge of the other one.
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I don't know what it is.
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I'm not actually sure now that I think about it.
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I did have to ask since, you know, you're focus was shiny hunting.
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Do you remember what it was like to kind of, of course, drowsy was put in the box to forever rot.
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Do you remember your first experience with the red Gyarados?
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I don't, but I do remember, in Gen 3, I had either Sapphire or Ruby.
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I don't remember which one I had and which one my sister had.
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but I got a Tropius in that game.
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And I, having known what Shinies were like at that point, I was really excited and I forced Tropius onto my team.
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Even though it very, very much did not fit, because I went with Treecko.
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So you just put, you just let the grass types maybe.
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Wow.
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it on my team and I used it all the way through.
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I know I beat the champion.
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I don't know if I used it after I caught, all the legends, but I did use it at least for the champion.
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Because I forced it through the entire battle because it sparkled when I sent it out, and I thought that was neat.
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What about, when you went to go battle red?
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Do you remember like trying to beat him?
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Was he difficult?
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Uh, I ground, my, Feraligators face into the ground that one.
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That was, what I did.
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I was like, okay, cool.
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Uh, he has Ice Punch, I don't think he had Crunch, I think he had Bite, Surf, and Return, I think was his moveset.
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And I just, reset the battle until I beat him.
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Wow.
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So for alligator against the world, just you six owed him with just for alligator, dude, that's crazy.
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You're probably going to spend like level 90 or a hundred at that point.
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I think he was maxed out, yeah.
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so I know you stream on Twitch and I want to know like, what's the meaning behind the Staryu army?