Jan. 29, 2025

TRAINER'S EYE #129 - "Shiny Upgrades with Porygon 2" ft. Out of Context Pokemon

TRAINER'S EYE #129 -

In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by Out of Context Pokemon, a Pokemon Trainers who creates Pokemon media that is presented out of context.

Out of Context Pokemon starts his journey as a young child watching the Pokemon anime. He dives into his interest in watching Ash Ketchum progress through the different regions.

It was until Hoenn where Out of Context had his first experience with the games. Out of Context Pokemon compares how different it was playing the Pokemon games compared to watching the anime. Despite playing until Generation 4, due to finances, he was unable to continue playing the Pokemon games and continued to engage with the franchise through the anime.

Eventually Out of Context Pokemon returns to the videos games with Pokemon Sword and Shield. He shares his experience at playing an open world game compared to the last pixel games he remembered. He also starts to slowly dive into the Pokemon TCG where he would collect certain cards.

Finally, Out of Context Pokemon gives insight into become the new owner of the Twitter account he oversees and what led him to taking on that type of role. He gives insight into the type of content he creates and his roles within the online Pokemon Community.

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Transcript
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I am OutOfContextPokemon and this is my Pokemon story.

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welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon My name is David Hernandez I'm joined by OutOfContextPokemon, here to step out of the scenes of Twitterverse And share the Pokemon story.

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Oh, Oh, see, welcome to the podcast.

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Ah, thank you, thank you.

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Though, uh, I guess for, uh, simplicity's sake, you can refer to me as Kazuhira.

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So, you know, before we dive into things, for those who don't know, you have an X or Twitter account that posts Pokemon content that kind of mixes with like, I guess we're world or maybe past experiences.

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What made you kind of want to start this content,

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Well, funny story, actually.

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I am, actually not the original owner, but the original owner themselves, which I'm not going to name out of, you know, privacy, they wanted out because they were so tired, or rather they feel personally tired of running the account and they just wanted to give it away to someone who's willing to take over.

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And Yeah, that would be me and my co owner, Sammy.

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since you took it over, did you have like a connection with them at the time?

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And what made you kind of want to step up into this role?

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Well No, I did not have any connection, but I was one of the people who messaged out of, you know, interest to keep the page alive.

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And I guess what made me want to step up with it is because before that announcement was made, I was already running One or two Pokemon Twitter pages at the time, but as a moderator, I don't own them.

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That would be Pokemon World Tweets and Miju with Pokemon Music.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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I didn't know you did that one.

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Yeah, unfortunately the first, unfortunately the first one got hacked last year, so, you know, that's, that's pretty much history.

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No, I was going to say, it's kind of cool how you kind of had different avenues, I guess, to kind of express the Pokemon interest.

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Yeah, funny thing about that, cause it used to have like, less than 2, 000 followers, but by the time I signed up to be a mod, well, look at it now, it's almost at 32, 000 followers, but yeah, tangent aside, yeah, I just wanted to keep the page alive.

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And, uh, I guess Sammy was the, you know, The original guy who was given the keys and then we had the third guy coming with us, which I'm not going to also name because, you know, they want to be private, but there were three of us.

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We had a bit of a fumbling about because we were trying to, I guess get a feel for what the content was.

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And, uh, I guess after some personal disagreements with the original owner, me and Sammy just took it upon ourselves to run it on our own.

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Uh, except, Sammy prefers to, you know, I guess stick as an advisor of sorts.

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And that gives me being the quote unquote main owner and practically the public face of this page.

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So we'll dive into more of the Twitter side of things later, but I kind of want to start like, When did you first became interested in this franchise?

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Where does it all start?

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Huh, I guess even before I turned like two years old I guess like because I was born at the time when the anime series, the original one, They, you know, they released the 4Kids dub on our country's, broadcasting scheduling.

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And I still remember watching, the Indigo League on that, you know, one of those old TVs those square ones that if you try to carry you definitely have to be careful otherwise you'll, uh, crush your fingers underneath.

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Heh heh heh.

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We call that a box TVs over here where I'm from.

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And they'd be like the one giant ones where you'd be like sometimes two or three people to carry.

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Yeah, that one.

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It was a Japanese TV too, so definitely one of the top of the line TVs at the time.

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So you said you started an anime, so you were watching Ash Ketchum trying to go through his journey with Misty and Brock and going through the Indigo League, I assume,

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Yes, I was there since the beginning, so anyone who, anyone who dares say that I wasn't there since the beginning, well, I can send them photos of, you know, myself, or rather, my one year old self watching the anime series, like I have it here, actually, under my bed.

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really?

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You the old VHS tabs and stuff like that.

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Nah, no photos.

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We're, you know, I guess, you know, you know, we're, know, you know, you know our parents.

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They, they always want to take photos of us when we were kids.

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Even when we're not doing anything.

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So, yeah, one of those photos is me watching the TV and apparently Ash is in that TV.

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So for me, when I grew up, you know, they had the Polaroids and the like one time cameras or Kodak's.

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Did you have those?

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Or is it kind of more you had to go digital at that point?

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No, no, it was still at the time when Kodaks were still the, you know, the dominating force in, uh, cameras.

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that's what I remember because I would always take photos because back in the day when selfies were becoming a thing and my mom would get on to me, but like, why are you wasting all this film taking selfies?

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She didn't understand it, but I was using her Kodak camera to try to take a selfie because I didn't have a phone back then,

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Yeah, but yeah, that's the very first, uh, exposure to the series, which is funny because most of the experiences that kids in America have something to relate to are the games, you know, Pokemon Red and Blue, but not me, not me, not me.

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You know, my parents never entertained the idea of giving me a Gameboy since, well, I'm one year old.

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I mean, who, who, who would even give a one year old a Gameboy, let alone a cartridge?

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That's fair.

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So, because, you know, you didn't play with red and blue, you're basically washing ash through his journey for the longest time.

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When did you kind of, I guess, dive into maybe the trading cards or the video game side of

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Well, I guess video game, it really all started in 2003 with Pokemon Ruby, when it was still brand new and the cartridge just cost like 30 bucks with the original box and everything.

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Oh, I miss those

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Yeah, though it wasn't my copy.

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It was my cousin's actually.

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you know, because we, we always do these, family visits on occasions.

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And one of those occasions, they, you know, my cousins, they came in with their flashy Game Boy Advance SPs at the time.

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And you know back then if you owned a Gameboy Advance SP you're practically a walking rich kid.

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Yep.

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Yeah, so they asked me like, do you like Pokemon?

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You know, you want to try it?

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And you know, being the, impressionable child I was, I, I, you know, I tried it and I still remember that my first, partner is Torchic actually.

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Hmm.

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Okay.

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Torchic, and I still have vivid memories of them making fun of my other cousin for choosing Trico.

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Oh, why'd they make fun of them?

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I have no idea, but I'm going to take a wild assumption that it's because of its

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Uh, that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but

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types.

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They always get the made fun of all the

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I know, right?

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But that's with the games.

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TCG, I am, well, super, super late.

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I have never collected TCGs in those years.

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So, I guess you can say that I missed out on the real golden age of trading cards for the Pokemon series.

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it all started in December 2021 when I ordered, singles from a local shopping site.

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One of those, cards was a trainer card of Hop.

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And I guess, I just got dragged in, cause I really love the idea of collecting cards and, my first set, real set, proper set would be, uh, Sword and Shield Lost Origins.

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And my very first, you know, what they call a hit or slash chase card is the Aerodactyl actually.

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and I only found out because someone mentioned that I practically, regained my one time in quote unquote investment.

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Idiots.

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Oh my gosh.

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He's like, Oh, you made all your money back from this arid actopole.

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Yeah, I mean, I had no idea at the time, but I knew that, you know, it was going to be a very interesting hobby.

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do you still collect the TCG nowadays?

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Or is it kind of something you just dabble in sometimes?

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I recently went back actually.

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In fact, I've been actively, publicly humiliating scalpers left and right Cause, uh, you know, they made it personal with me when they, uh, flooded the site when I was about to check out one box.

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Uh, yeah.

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Oh, man, that's why I'm grateful that I'm not that deep in the TCG right now, because that all would just ruin it for me.

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I think, you know,

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Yeah, but thankfully I have, friends and partners that I can rely on should I really want a box or two.

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really, it's not a huge loss for me, unlike most people.

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So, when you first started diving into the video game silos, Rubin's half was your first game.

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Were you still keeping up with the anime at that point?

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Like, were you just watching the anime like every day up to access journey?

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Mm hmm, yes, but I guess by the time Black and White rolled out I, kind of stopped and diverged from there because Funny story, because you you don't hear this often but There was another series competing for my favorite.

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That was Digimon

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Oh, yes,

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And you know, of course I loved it as well in fact Jason Page's intro is really iconic.

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I still, still know the lyrics from heart.

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But, if we're talking about endings, Digimon takes the cake.

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especially the original ending for Season 1, which is, uh, you know, I Wish by Ai Maeda.

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Ah,

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So going back to playing Ruby Pokemon, Ruby and Sapphire, what do you remember most about playing those first Pokemon games?

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Did you feel like you were kind of living the anime world at that point, or did you kind of feel like it was a different adventure?

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It was a totally different adventure.

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And I guess the most memorable part of the games really was the music.

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Yeah.

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music that sticks out

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Petalburg City.

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Oh, yes.

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that's one of the most memorable like, themes for me in that game and, The Starting Town, I forgot its name actually.

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Uh, little Root

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Little Road Town, yeah, that's forever etched in my memory.

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And, it wasn't, it was an entirely different experience compared to watching the anime.

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but, you know, but it's still as memorable.

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as it was when I first started it.

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for me.

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The songs that stick to my head.

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Is one for tree city.

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Ah,

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Yep.

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I love that song the most.

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And I always loved the second one was the underwater theme.

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the, what's his face, the dive team.

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Yes, yes

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Yeah, I mean, it's funny, unless you're, I guess, IGN, which, you know, they're gonna stay away from it.

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well IGN doesn't have good taste, but that's me But I've always wanted like the underwater theme as like a lullaby because it's just so soothing I could literally fall asleep to it.

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That's how good it is for me.

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So I play gen 1, but I'm a gen 3, baby I love the gen 3 games the music was one of the most appealing parts besides the whole world, of course

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Oh yeah, I mean story wise and game mechanics, it's really the music that sets it apart for me.

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they never fail to, you know, amaze me with the music every single time.

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What did you think of the remakes?

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You know, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.

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Did you get a chance to experience those games?

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Ah, unfortunately, I am one of those people who have never experienced the 3DS era because I was in college at the time and, you know, being a, college kid, I have no money.

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Oh my gosh.

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I mean, it's true though.

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I mean, we're in college.

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We're kind of broke.

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So we don't really got the kind of money to put out for those kind of games.

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Yeah, but I was actively hearing about talks of sun and moon around 2016.

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And, that's, uh, when it started to up slowly but surely because around the time Sword and Shield was announced, and I, I really wanted it because, you know, they evolved from what I used to play in a Game Boy to the Switch, it was really impressive for me, so, you know, back then I wasn't aware that behind the scenes fans were actively, you know, fighting each other over a damn tree.

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Yeah, it's pathetic, really.

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Like, really, out of all the things you could argue about.

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Really?

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But, it took a while for me to get a Switch.

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In fact, I guess it's meant to be, because around January 2020, I bought my first Switch.

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And, funny enough, it's the Sword and Shield Lite Edition.

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Ooh.

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You really dived into all of sword and shield.

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Like that really hooked you back in fully into Pokemon.

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and I guess a few days later, my friend gifted me a gift card to basically buy shield and I guess that's how it all started again.

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Now I've got to ask you, cause you know, it's two different legendaries.

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Which did you prefer?

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Did you prefer Zamazenta or Zacian?

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Zamazenta.

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Oh, the shield dog.

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Hey, all right.

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You're the only other person I've ever met who prefers Zamazenta.

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Yeah.

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I made sure Zacian is useful for Singles and double battles, but Zamazenta is my personal pick always it just looks, you know, it just Appeals to me really and A dog wearing a shield.

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It looks funny to me

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So you said, you know, you skipped out of all of the 3ds era because you just, you know, broke college kid, right?

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What was it like to kind of return to Pokemon's experience sword and shield after your last Pokemon game before that?

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Ah amazing it's like I guess it's like jumping from the PS1 and immediately to the PS4 or 3.

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You know like everything about it was amazing and again as always the music is what sets it apart for me.

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was it kind of overwhelming to kind of be open world to kind of see the graphics and everything?

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no, but it was definitely something that I did not expect from Pokemon, cause It was linear when back in the days, but you know for you to freely explore things and unlock Routes as you go.

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It was amazing I guess the only thing I didn't like was the story because what's his face here you do know solar power is a thing, right?

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Yes.

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Yep.

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Yeah

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in the Pokemon world.

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It already does exist.

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It was ahead of its time.

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Yeah, and, you know, this is more of a personal vendetta than a criticism of the game, but I vehemently hate the Sword and Shield twins, Swordbert and Shieldbert.

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God, I hate them.

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I hope they, I hope they die very soon.

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Damn.

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He really does not like these people.

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Okay.

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Like, you know, the moment they op they started speaking, I just, I when they start when they started to open their mouth, I was like, oh my god, shut the fuck up and die already!

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Wow.

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So they just annoyed you from the get go.

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Yeah, like, before Sword and Shield, the last character that did this for me was, uh, and I mean this with no, you know, toxic intent, Sans, from Undertale.

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Like, you know, like, not the boss battle, but, you know, just simply his existence irritates the hell out of me.

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But, you know, Swordbird and Shieldbird were, you know, were pretty much experts at this more than sans.

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So, yeah, they're, you know, they're still my, you know, my most hated characters in pretty much out of every franchise.

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And, you know, I still hope That in in that world they die a horrible and painful death

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that's the third version where you get a chance to torture him however you want, okay?

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It'll be Pokemon guillotine for you.

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Yeah but yeah, It really is a wonderful experience to play shield when all when all the games you played on pokemon was Practically just on a game boy really so Personally, I feel like, you know, I mean, and I mean no disrespect, but, I feel like Pokemon fans generally just, come off as rude and ungrateful, really.

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In what way?

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I guess, you know, like, like, sure, no game is perfect, but to actively, nitpick every single thing, and worst of all, harassing other fans for simply loving the game.

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It's just, you know, insanity, really.

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I think that's kind of something more recent for example, people nowadays, they want the voice acting.

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They want a more grittier plot.

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Pokemon's never been either of those things.

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You know, the grittiest plot we ever get is Pokemon Colosseum back in GameCube days.

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If you know, you know, and even then it's kind of tame.

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And even, you know, voice acting, I know that's huge, but for me growing up, a lot of people wanted the 3d graphics, which we have now, people were like, why are y'all still using the bit graphics?

00:19:00.909 --> 00:19:06.977
You know, Pokemon black and white was the last one where they felt like, Oh, it's beyond, you know, they should have gone to what we got that now the models.

00:19:07.416 --> 00:19:10.356
And for me, I look at it, I'm like, I kind of missed the graphics, but.

00:19:10.711 --> 00:19:12.791
You know, I've been in Pokemon a long time since day one.

00:19:12.791 --> 00:19:15.882
So, well, not day one, but at least, you know, early days,

00:19:17.065 --> 00:19:26.499
Yeah, good, good, good, yeah, cause, I guess I wasn't active in the community until 2000 and late 2022.

00:19:26.499 --> 00:19:30.878
So, you know, basically to start off in 2023.

00:19:31.201 --> 00:19:32.561
No, no, no, correction, correction.

00:19:32.582 --> 00:19:41.021
It was late 2021 because by the time March 2022 rolled out, I already joined the World Tweets account as a mod.

00:19:42.076 --> 00:19:42.696
Oh my gosh.

00:19:42.696 --> 00:19:43.156
I'm sorry.

00:19:43.156 --> 00:19:44.247
That's where your sanity went.

00:19:46.261 --> 00:19:54.650
So, you know, back then, I, uh, witnessed a lot of dramatic stuff, especially when Scarlet and Violet came out.

00:19:54.650 --> 00:19:56.329
Yeah,

00:19:56.515 --> 00:19:59.765
still like people for some reason, still dog on those games.

00:19:59.765 --> 00:20:08.352
I'm like, yo, yeah, there's some graphical issues, but that game's honestly on at least top five, almost to me, maybe even top two.

00:20:08.352 --> 00:20:10.112
It's that high that I love those games.

00:20:10.397 --> 00:20:12.407
But like you said, a lot of people look more towards.

00:20:12.847 --> 00:20:15.847
What they didn't do right than what they did right, if that makes sense.

00:20:15.932 --> 00:20:16.462
yeah.

00:20:16.843 --> 00:20:22.903
I guess the only weird decision for me that I still don't understand to this day was, why Ed Sheeran?

00:20:23.123 --> 00:20:25.212
Like, what's, what's, what's the reasoning, you know?

00:20:25.664 --> 00:20:27.521
I thought he was, I thought he grew up a Pokemon fan.

00:20:27.934 --> 00:20:47.801
I mean, aside from that, like, you know, on, uh, I guess I'm just trying to understand, out of all the things they could do, why Ed Sheeran, of all people, do a credit song, cause it, I, I, you know, like, yeah, I just finished, you know, the Area Zero story, happy ending, and then Ed Sheeran just pops up and like, huh?

00:20:48.031 --> 00:20:49.011
What's going on?

00:20:51.146 --> 00:20:54.896
Hey, I'll tell you what, when I have Ed Sheeran on the podcast, I'll ask him that question for you.

00:20:57.186 --> 00:21:00.166
If I ever, okay, I don't think I'll ever get him, but still, you know, I can dream.

00:21:01.772 --> 00:21:02.863
Who would you want though?

00:21:02.873 --> 00:21:06.472
Who would you, if it wasn't for Ed Sheeran, who would you have wanted to sing a song instead?

00:21:06.906 --> 00:21:12.876
Uh, well, he's dead now, but if he was still alive, I guess Michael Jackson.

00:21:13.173 --> 00:21:19.143
or if, we're talking about artists that are still active in any way, Rick Astley.

00:21:19.589 --> 00:21:26.940
because, you know, he has a very rich voice that I think, Will do well on a credit song like that

00:22:14.977 --> 00:22:18.317
So, you know, you starting the Twitter account, you took it over at the time.

00:22:18.777 --> 00:22:24.027
How has it been to kind of keep up with the content to kind of put a tweet out for people to kind of enjoy?

00:22:24.037 --> 00:22:26.727
Is it been challenging or has it been something that's kind of easy for you to do?

00:22:26.727 --> 00:22:26.767
Um,

00:22:27.061 --> 00:22:35.883
It was challenging at first because I guess you can equate this to a detective sifting through folders of old cases.

00:22:36.303 --> 00:22:44.032
It's like that, except I was browsing through literal hundreds and thousands of pictures just to see which the audience would like.

00:22:44.472 --> 00:22:51.423
And I guess, slowly but surely, I started to branch out with just remaining out of context only.

00:22:51.423 --> 00:23:02.251
I mean, I've been posting, you know, intro songs, archive stuff like the very first Pokemon commercial for the US, not the Red and Blue but the anime.

00:23:02.902 --> 00:23:13.703
And, with the blessing of the owner, Reposting stuff that we edited for media with pokemon music Like you know, repost our old edits as good morning slash good night post.

00:23:14.044 --> 00:23:28.626
Cause, you know, we want to, well rather, I wanted to, uh, you know, start their day with, and end their day with a funny video cause I, personally speaking, I wouldn't want to start my morning on a very, very sour note.

00:23:29.247 --> 00:23:40.616
as much as possible, I want to try and, Give the audience, or anyone, visiting the page, really, something to look at before their day starts slash ends, really.

00:23:41.071 --> 00:23:46.102
You basically want people who visit that pays it's the first thing they see kind of bring cheers them up in a way

00:23:46.807 --> 00:23:52.651
Yeah, because, I guess a bit of backstory about the page and the original owner.

00:23:53.060 --> 00:24:02.159
The original owner, based on my observations, They love to argue with people and not just specific ones.

00:24:02.159 --> 00:24:05.699
it could be anyone that they don't like, especially.

00:24:06.051 --> 00:24:11.741
So, you know, back then they were basically breeding hate on specific people.

00:24:12.612 --> 00:24:15.432
No rather, any people really on that platform.

00:24:15.761 --> 00:24:19.246
Doesn't matter if you're IGN, a news company.

00:24:19.461 --> 00:25:03.963
a transphobe person or simply they just don't like you You know, if you're on their side, you're very damn well expected to show up on their profile and with them making fun of you or something and you know when I took over and we parted ways on a very sour note Basically, I took it upon myself to rebrand the page away from their identity and their past and basically just turn it into something where anyone regardless whether they follow us or not and whether they're a pokemon fan or not it is a page where they can expect to see stuff that will cheer them up rather than you know upset them like what the previous owner did

00:25:04.554 --> 00:25:08.523
What was the response once you decided to shift, you know, away from a base?

00:25:08.523 --> 00:25:14.753
It sounds like trolling or attacking people to be in, I guess, more wholesome and to kind of make more engaging, funny content.

00:25:15.126 --> 00:25:22.838
Ah, well, there was a small group of people me and sammy called the oomphies because

00:25:24.433 --> 00:25:25.324
The old piece.

00:25:25.679 --> 00:25:37.582
yeah because they were personally or rather unintentionally sent out by the original owner against us they were basically not happy with what we were trying to do and

00:25:37.826 --> 00:25:38.717
Oh, wow.

00:25:38.882 --> 00:25:51.402
you know just took every opportunity especially mistakes to like, criticize us or even downright make fun of us But thankfully majority of the people were like shut the fuck up get out of here

00:25:51.852 --> 00:25:52.172
Dang.

00:25:52.172 --> 00:25:56.338
So the owner even was against you trying to rebrand it, even though they gave it to you.

00:25:56.358 --> 00:26:19.125
No, no like Like not against but like they were actively making fun of me and sammy even before we left on a sour note like they thought they're slick, but back then when they still haven't blocked us, I was checking on their profile from time to time and sometimes I'd see them co tweeting one of our posts and, you know, just them making fun of us for it.

00:26:19.432 --> 00:26:25.996
so, you know, I'm really glad that, they block us and, you know, I block him, block him back because really.

00:26:26.196 --> 00:26:38.473
those, those types of people in the fandom are the ones that, you know, ruins the community in a sense, because all they do is nothing but breed discord and, you know, so chaos amongst community members.

00:26:38.473 --> 00:26:46.957
So, you know, for me to, you know, practically erase every single bit of their identity, it was cathartic and I guess.

00:26:47.078 --> 00:26:58.888
at the same time, I'm proud that I practically turned it into a page where anyone, regardless of their status and community can feel welcome to and not fear being prejudiced.

00:26:59.496 --> 00:27:03.955
Now you're in a situation to where you're kind of a faceless content creator.

00:27:03.986 --> 00:27:06.381
People don't really, you don't really post your face at all.

00:27:06.846 --> 00:27:14.766
What is it kind of like to be able to kind of observe the community from that standpoint to where you're posting stuff and you kind of see, I guess the talking heads around the community around you.

00:27:15.372 --> 00:27:20.386
It's very interesting'cause A lot of people look up to the page.

00:27:20.487 --> 00:27:27.227
In fact, where I live, months ago, I found out that they practically treat me like a celebrity here.

00:27:27.628 --> 00:27:28.439
Really?

00:27:28.473 --> 00:27:38.034
Yeah, I mean, there are artists that personally knows who I really am behind the scenes, but that's because, I would visit their art stalls during conventions.

00:27:38.395 --> 00:27:42.806
And after buying Pokemon stickers, keychains, you know, anything really.

00:27:43.236 --> 00:27:51.115
I would ask them to check their Discord for a special surprise, and the last thing I would hear from them is, I guess, you know, they're just gleeing with joy.

00:27:51.429 --> 00:27:52.868
Oh, you make their day.

00:27:53.338 --> 00:28:01.269
Yeah, that was the reason why I did it, but, you know, on a grand scale, nah, I don't go around saying, hey, I'm this guy, you know.

00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:02.709
Like, that's stupid really.

00:28:03.144 --> 00:28:06.503
I was going about to ask you, like, if you go out, tell people you're actually OOC.

00:28:06.523 --> 00:28:10.250
So you kind of keep it private from who you are in the public sector.

00:28:10.645 --> 00:28:14.776
Yeah, but if it's with, you know, friends that really knows me.

00:28:15.165 --> 00:28:18.905
And, you know, artists, locally speaking.

00:28:19.685 --> 00:28:23.310
Nah, I'm okay with them knowing, cause, I trust them.

00:28:23.756 --> 00:28:26.806
I was wondering, so why wouldn't you want that notoriety?

00:28:26.816 --> 00:28:29.705
Because clearly, you know, you're a celebrity in your local area.

00:28:30.076 --> 00:28:31.405
Do you not want that attention?

00:28:31.405 --> 00:28:32.306
I guess everywhere.

00:28:33.300 --> 00:28:44.028
I guess it just feels weird, cause I'm not used to such status or, you know, affectionate feelings from other people, because That's pretty much it, really.

00:28:44.028 --> 00:28:53.335
I'm just not used to it, you know, being treated like a celebrity because uh, I just do what I do out what I love, really, and I'm not doing this for fame Um,

00:28:53.785 --> 00:28:55.924
I think that's so great because sometimes.

00:28:55.961 --> 00:29:03.154
When people taste that kind of stardom, I guess, or that attention, it goes to their head and they start kind of believing their own hype.

00:29:03.164 --> 00:29:09.494
They start thinking they're all that it's easy to get kind of arrogant and overconfident, but then for you, you don't care for it.

00:29:09.494 --> 00:29:13.855
You just want to enjoy Pokemon and kind of be a part of the community as a whole.

00:29:14.265 --> 00:29:22.115
yeah, I have to admit, I did use that platform to try and get a leg up in the job sector.

00:29:22.476 --> 00:29:37.712
Cause, you know, I've been managing social media accounts for years now so, to basically tell the company I'm applying for that, you know, I run this page, they'll definitely be impressed and possibly would want to hire me but that's pretty much it really.

00:29:38.151 --> 00:29:40.340
we were talking about the social media side of just.

00:29:40.875 --> 00:29:43.365
Content creation in the earlier.

00:29:43.365 --> 00:29:47.405
You said you had to kind of find out what your audience liked.

00:29:47.865 --> 00:29:56.036
How did you go about doing that creating the content and finding out people who follow you on Twitter or I'm sorry X liked when it comes to what you do now.

00:29:56.508 --> 00:29:59.636
basically observed as time passed by.

00:30:00.554 --> 00:30:08.473
Oh, and I guess I did ask some, I did some polls, but that's, those were more like community, focus in mind.

00:30:08.493 --> 00:30:15.518
Like, what do you think is the best game, best explorer, best PMD game in existence and stuff like that.

00:30:16.218 --> 00:30:23.327
And I guess from there, I just slowly caught on, on what they really like, like, aside from out of context images and videos.

00:30:23.729 --> 00:30:29.038
You know, I just started to notice that they really like the funny, the funny stuff more.

00:30:29.367 --> 00:30:46.268
And, the wholesome stuff, like, I've noticed that even though it didn't get many, even though it didn't reach like a thousand likes or so, I've noticed that, there is a group of people that really enjoys, the more wholesome side of Pokemon, like, say, Concierge, the Netflix series.

00:30:46.727 --> 00:30:50.386
as of recent, they're starting to like the more wholesome content.

00:30:50.406 --> 00:31:03.837
And, I guess, this is obvious, but, you know, seeing the biggest, Pokemon fan slash gimmick page, publicly humiliating scalpers left and right 24 7.

00:31:04.678 --> 00:31:06.387
You kind of become the superhero in a way,

00:31:06.688 --> 00:31:12.307
Yeah, I mean, I'm not afraid to, call out bad actors within the community as OOC.

00:31:12.678 --> 00:31:19.468
In fact, let them come, and I'll, you know, and I'll have the, and I'll have the news ready for them.

00:31:19.478 --> 00:31:19.498
Um,

00:31:19.959 --> 00:31:25.078
what response have you ever gotten any like private messages of people thanking you for some of the content you post?

00:31:25.213 --> 00:31:27.944
yeah, the most memorable for me.

00:31:28.038 --> 00:31:40.146
Was, when I was still starting out as the public face and lead owner of OOC, like, I posted a goodnight post and it was the full ending of platinum.

00:31:40.588 --> 00:32:04.403
And you know, just out of nowhere, a follower messaged the page they were basically saying, thank you for posting that, that, they always have a bad time and, you know, to see us or see me posting the full ending and it appearing on their timeline, it just, basically, you know, ended their day on a much more positive note than it normally is.

00:32:04.853 --> 00:32:08.112
And you know, I still wonder what happened to that person to this day.

00:32:08.112 --> 00:32:11.872
Cause it was really heartwarming to receive a message like that back then.

00:32:11.902 --> 00:32:13.412
And it still is to this day.

00:32:13.846 --> 00:32:20.213
I don't receive much of it nowadays, but that's one of the most memorable fan DMs that I ever got as OOC.

00:32:20.666 --> 00:32:24.567
It reminds me of that cliche saying nowadays, but still kind of true.

00:32:24.727 --> 00:32:31.356
You never know what people are kind of battling and sometimes a kind word or a kind gesture in this case, maybe a funny post.

00:32:31.781 --> 00:32:33.582
Can kind of change things for people.

00:32:34.038 --> 00:32:49.229
Yeah, that's why, you know, I always make it a point and focus to just, do what I love while at the same time give the audience what they'd like to see or what I believe they'd like to see and, you know, get a laugh out of it.

00:32:49.653 --> 00:32:50.054
Really?

00:32:50.501 --> 00:32:55.093
My last question, just in regards to OOC, you have Porygon as kind of the logo.

00:32:55.093 --> 00:32:56.682
Is that also the favorite Pokemon

00:32:58.597 --> 00:33:04.861
It's my favorite too, but when the owner was still the owner, it was a Porgon Z.

00:33:05.205 --> 00:33:08.365
You know, I reverted it back to the Porgon 2 one.

00:33:08.741 --> 00:33:17.589
it's funny, because it wasn't supposed to be shiny, but I said, if we gained a million followers again, I will change this into a shiny and I stuck with my word

00:33:19.576 --> 00:33:21.267
And now you've got the shiny Porygon too.

00:33:21.707 --> 00:33:29.513
Yeah, it really is and we contacted an artist to commission a new profile picture for us.

00:33:29.614 --> 00:33:40.309
like aside from what I normally do We also do our best to help, artists who I believe should be popular more than most people.

00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:49.375
And I'm also partnered with a lot of shops and so many, wonderful people who, you know, who sells merchandise.

00:33:49.861 --> 00:33:56.998
You know, like, a normal store, not those, idiots that sells things at 300 percent above the MSRP.

00:33:57.611 --> 00:34:02.941
the few ones that, uh, That has been with us since the beginning.

00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:05.691
It will be Fun Lab and Hobby Genki.

00:34:06.611 --> 00:34:18.221
And if it wasn't for them, then we would have never attracted the attention of our, you know, now existing partnerships with other shops and people.

00:34:18.911 --> 00:34:20.621
so you said Porygon2 is your favorite.

00:34:20.630 --> 00:34:23.637
What is it about Porygon2 that made it solidified your favorite?

00:34:23.637 --> 00:34:25.387
Was it like a moment or was it just something about it?

00:34:26.833 --> 00:34:30.762
It's one of my favorites, I guess it's because, you know, there's two reasons.

00:34:30.762 --> 00:34:34.233
One is because, you know, why would you hate that little guy?

00:34:34.233 --> 00:34:35.472
It looks cute.

00:34:36.251 --> 00:34:36.981
True, true.

00:34:37.266 --> 00:34:45.907
And the other is, uh, it was a VGC moment when I was still actively participating in Sword and Shield Online Battles.

00:34:46.217 --> 00:34:51.402
There was this Porgon2 that was holding some sort of item, Eviolite if I'm correct.

00:34:52.344 --> 00:34:52.815
Yes.

00:34:52.954 --> 00:34:59.931
You know, it was, you know, I was trying my best to like, you know, knock it out, but it just, stood it on its own two feet.

00:34:59.972 --> 00:35:05.974
And I guess it really just defined who Porgon2 is for me aside from being cute.

00:35:06.702 --> 00:35:18.382
And I guess the real star of the favorites would be, you know mainly fire types and specifically the three starters Cinderace, Blaziken, and Quackoval

00:35:18.965 --> 00:35:22.364
Well, OC, I want to close this interview with the last question.

00:35:22.692 --> 00:35:30.853
And since you love the fire type, I want to restrict you to fire types only, If you had to make a fire type Pokemon team What six Pokemon would you choose?

00:35:31.297 --> 00:35:36.842
ah well definitely Cinderace is the lead because speed and attack

00:35:37.237 --> 00:35:38.927
Would you also use the G max form?

00:35:38.956 --> 00:35:39.407
I assume.

00:35:39.731 --> 00:35:45.661
yeah I love that one Incineroar, because, you know, who wouldn't want WolfieVGC on their team?

00:35:48.532 --> 00:35:50.003
Wolfy, you guarantee you a win too.

00:35:50.387 --> 00:35:52.494
Yeah! Who else?

00:35:52.675 --> 00:35:56.181
Volcarona, because I find that little moth funny looking.

00:35:56.494 --> 00:36:02.108
Blaziken, because, you know, I never leave any generations without my original starter.

00:36:02.492 --> 00:36:03.112
Hmm.

00:36:03.123 --> 00:36:03.422
Okay.

00:36:03.452 --> 00:36:04.172
Are you going to do mega?

00:36:04.507 --> 00:36:06.307
And Mega too, yeah, because, you

00:36:06.512 --> 00:36:07.583
So you can do the mega of bedzigan.

00:36:07.693 --> 00:36:08.023
Okay.

00:36:08.143 --> 00:36:12.253
They look cool, really cool, with their mega evolution form.

00:36:12.813 --> 00:36:13.753
Who else?

00:36:14.250 --> 00:36:48.018
I guess for the fifth one it would be Gouging fire because I'm not sure if you've seen this but that little guy is a meme in the VGC section The reason why it's a meme because of a person named zova fire and they posted a clip of gouging fire sweeping a team of six on its own except the I guess the The, what's his face here, the, the real joke of that clip was his name.

00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:50.231
It's, practically named Gay Porn.

00:36:51.938 --> 00:36:52.597
Wait, what?

00:36:53.307 --> 00:37:02.907
Yeah! Yeah, like, you know, like, imagine your team being swept with no effort whatsoever by a gouging fire named Gay Porn.

00:37:03.378 --> 00:37:04.668
Oh, no

00:37:04.922 --> 00:37:06.373
that's, that's not all.

00:37:06.713 --> 00:37:15.302
It's also paired with a song that goes like, He's bouncing on my bootycheeks, I love it when he rides.

00:37:17.721 --> 00:37:18.490
I'm dying here.

00:37:18.561 --> 00:37:19.081
Oh my god.

00:37:19.251 --> 00:37:19.451
Oh,

00:37:19.942 --> 00:37:24.431
and yeah, last would be, actually from Johto, Typhlosion.

00:37:24.431 --> 00:37:26.731
Specifically, He's Human type.

00:37:27.152 --> 00:37:33.262
Well, oh see thank you for coming on the podcast if people want to check out You know you on Twitter if they want to contact you, where can they go?

00:37:33.262 --> 00:37:34.762
By all means, please plug away

00:37:35.327 --> 00:37:38.856
They can find me on Twitter, because I refuse to call it as X.

00:37:38.987 --> 00:37:39.818
Blue Sky.

00:37:39.818 --> 00:37:48.427
And yeah, they can also find me on Twitch and, Discord Because I have a Discord group It's on the link tree if anyone wants to join They're free to join