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I'm Noble Janobiart,
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I am Penpeaches, and this is my Pokémon story.
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and this is my Pokémon story.
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Welcome to As the Pokemon Ball turns, we interview people about their experience with Pokemon.
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My name is David Hernandez, I have a two for one special.
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I have Noble Geno Art.
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And Pan Peaches, both of y'all, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having us.
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Oh, now
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sync there.
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earlier?
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Before we record, they tried for like five minutes to try to sync up their beginning part, and all of a sudden now, they decided to sync up together, mind to mind.
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Oh my gosh.
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But,
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to be.
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right, right.
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Mm hmm.
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thank you all both for coming on and how about we, share the people who are listening, you know, how do y'all know each other?
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What's the story behind that before we dive into the whole Pokemon stuff?
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If y'all willing to share.
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So, we were both into, like, Pokemon comics as, like, young kids, I guess.
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And, you know, we would try to Google this kind of stuff on the internet.
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and we both ended up on, like, a defunct website.
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And,
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Jeeves, for any of the people out there who are familiar, RIP.
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Yeah,
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yeah.
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And we were both kind of in like the Pokemon comic sphere.
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I saw her commenting on like another popular Pokemon artist's like webcomic.
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And I think we were both like in the same like art competition contest for them.
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Yeah.
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that artist hosted a phone case design contest, she had like a clear phone case, and so you could draw something for it, and I think I ended up winning it.
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Yeah.
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Haha.
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but then you came across my comic somehow.
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I did.
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I don't even, I think it was because, the, the artist was Pokemon trainer Gigi.
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She did like these Q& A things, and so she would have like, it was kind of akin to what Askvlogging is now, where people would send in characters and ask questions of her characters, and she would draw the responses, and your characters interacted with hers on a couple of different occasions, and so I think I found your comment through that.
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And so I started reading up on it through that, and then you did like that cameo call because you were having the sentry duty, chapter for, it was a Pokemon Explorers of Sky comic.
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Mm
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And so they were having like different people come through to be like the footprints for the sentry duty.
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And I sent in one of my OCs and that's, that's basically how we met.
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Oh,
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Yep.
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So was this like, based on the original manga or artists like making their own kind of comics with Pokemon?
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It was kind of like, we were fans of like a certain thing of our own niches, and like I was in the PMD niche of like that webcomic site.
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Yeah, you'll notice if you, um.
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Ever delve into the Pokemon webcomic scenes, there's a lot of different niches.
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You'll have people who do like original comics, like Shinka the Last Eevee is probably one of the most notorious ones because it was really big back when we first met and then it got rebooted.
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More recently and actually just finished this run then there's other ones that are like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon comics where they take, the premise of the different mystery dungeon games and basically make it their own.
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And then there's like the Nuzlocke comics, which all, you know, they, they do a Nuzlocke and then they interpret it, that way.
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and then there's some people who just do like regular playthroughs of the games or just, you know, They'll take, like, the formula of, like, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and do, their own spin on it.
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that was where, like, PMD Victory Fire, like, saw.
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PMD Victory Fire integrated elements of the other games, but PMD Victory Fire, um, and there's a couple other ones out there, put their own original flavor on, uh, the setting and made it kind of their own thing.
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And that's seen a lot of popularity, especially recently.
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how long have y'all been together?
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Oh gosh.
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Um.
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It's been that long.
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All right.
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So it'll be five years next month.
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We've been friends since, uh, we met in 2013.
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So we've been friends for over a decade now.
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We ended up kind of going our separate ways and then we reconnected when I was in college, through discord so, uh, cause we've been friends on Skype and so.
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And DeviantArt.
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And DeviantArt, that's true.
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and so when you linked your Skype contacts with Discord, Discord was like, hey, this person that you're friends with on Skype, is on Discord.
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And so I ended up getting like a friend thing where it was saying like, hey, so and so that you're friends with on Skype is here.
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And it was actually Peach's, uh, sibling.
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Mm hmm.
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Uh, and I messaged them.
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Yeah, I don't, I still don't know how that happened, but nevertheless.
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I contacted sibling was like, Oh, hey, I'm not actually who you're looking for.
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Here! Heh heh heh
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and yeah, it was like destiny there.
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that's awesome.
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I love how, you know, y'all both, which I was on separate ways, but y'all still interconnected and y'all's own unique, different way.
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And now y'all here on the podcast.
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That's great.
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Yeah! Dynamic duo.
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Oh, yeah,
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Yeah, I figured our story is interconnected enough, which is why I asked for us both to be on here.
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no, and I appreciate that because I think it would be some something would be missing if it wasn't.
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And, you know, I always especially have a soft spot for couples or people who've relationships who come on this podcast, because I love how seeing how Pokemon was able to kind of bring it all together.
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And, you know, neat way for y'all.
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It was the Pokemon web comic scene.
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Yeah.
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without, without Pokemon, we would probably never have met and not gotten together.
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Well, let's start with like the pre log or the beginning before we all met.
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Penpeaches, how about you start your first, what's your first experience with the Pokemon franchise?
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gosh.
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It was my cousin's fault, actually.
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I was introduced via the Pokemon trading card game, and then like started to get into the anime, and then eventually the video games on the GBA.
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but yeah, Pokemon was significant.
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to my art career because that's how I started, basically.
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How, how did Pokemon lead into your art career?
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So, a lot of people like the Pokémon card game for the art most of the time?
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Mm hmm.
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Mm
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it was very trendy back in elementary school, you know, to trade your Pokémon cards with the other kids, and I was bored one day in class.
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And I pulled out a Growlithe card and started, like, copying the art off of it onto my notebook.
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my deskmates around me, saw me drawing and were very impressed.
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They, then they came up to me with their Pokémon cards and asked me to draw their Pokémon, You know, it's, it inspired me a lot to like, draw and draw more.
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And at that time I had like a bunch of notebooks just filled out with drawings of Pokemon and various other media.
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And yeah, that, now we're like, in 2009, actually.
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So it's, it's been a while since I started to draw seriously.
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And do you remember, like, any specific cards that stand out that really inspired you or that you appreciated art at the time?
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Oh, yeah.
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even before like elementary school.
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I remember in fourth or not fourth grade when I was four, there was this horsey card where the horsey was like spitting out smog.
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And that was the first Pokemon card that I like try to copy the art of and try to draw off of.
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What was it about the horsey just seeing, like, the smog and it trying to, defend itself?
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Like, what about it that really intrigued you?
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I'm not sure, but that was like, the earliest memory I've had of like, you know, referencing and copying off these, Pokemon card art.
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So, Noble, what's your first experience with Pokemon?
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So I started with the CCG as well.
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when I was very little and I don't remember exactly how old I was, my parents, when, my parents would leave me with a babysitter while they would go out and do stuff.
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And so there was a family that lived next door to the lady who would babysit me that was really into Pokemon cards.
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And so they gave me my first pack of Pokemon cards, and I distinctly remember that the very first cards that I, kept and really treasured.
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It was the base set Pikachu.
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You can get it in TCG Pocket now.
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It's like the really, really old like artwork where it has like the purple ish ears instead of the black and like purple brown stripes.
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It's got the forest in the background.
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and then the Delta Species Salamence.
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And I still have both of those cards to this day.
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The Delta Species Salamence is like in tatters, but it's, have it.
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That's actually why Salamence is one of my favorite book ones to this day, is because of that card.
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but I started with that.
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And then my Next Door Neighbors, when I got a little bit older, were, really into Bookworm and Street Dungeon.
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And so, and this had to have been, like, I think around 2005 ish, because it was, PMD Blue Rescue Team.
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My Next Door Neighbors Uh, Linded me their cartridge of PMD Blue Rescue Team.
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and I played it, and I liked it, so my parents got it for me for Easter that year, and that was my very first one game, and then I got Diamond.
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Yeah, I got Diamond later on, but when people always ask me, like, What gin baby are you?
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I'm like, it depends.
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Are you counting mainline or side games?
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Because if it's side games, I'm gin three.
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If I'm mainline, it's gin four.
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It must be so different to come from a side game into the Pokemon.
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Cause I think you're one of the, I've only had like maybe five others who have come from a side game.
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what was it about the mystery dungeon games that you really enjoyed at the time?
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loved the friend areas.
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That was probably my favorite thing.
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and still to this day, that's like one of my favorite things things to go back and explore.
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I liked being able to, I remember I had one of my first playthroughs, I had a Charmander for my partner Pokemon, and you got like Mount Steel as like the free friend area with that.
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And I really liked the Pokemon Aron, and so I just filled Mount Steel with like as many Aron as you could fit in there, and they were just like all over the place because I didn't understand that like it wasn't a limited free space, that there was only so many Pokemon that you could like fit in that friend area, and it was designed to only fit like Basically one of each that could fit in there.
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So I had like, I think, eight Aron or something in there, and I was so happy.
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but I love the friend areas.
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The story was really good.
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That's still one of my favorite Pokemon, stories to date.
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I love the whole like, Oh, you're a human turned Pokemon, and you're going to save the world.
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And you have these, really cool connections with everyone else and the Fugitive Arc is still so good.
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I love the Fugitive Arc so much and everything with, like, the witch cats and everything and so that's, uh, I have a lot of really fond memories playing with Blue Rescue Team.
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Uh, I feel bad because I haven't actually, like, entirely finished everything that you could do in it because, like, you know, you start hitting, like, Western Cave and then, like, the 99 floor dungeons and But I have DX, as well, and I've played a lot of time in that, and actually my DX team is named after Peaches and I.
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Oh, that's so sweet.
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Mm hmm.
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love good, uh, I love good love stories like that.
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I love connection.
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So it warms my heart every time.
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So,
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Yeah, I'm, I've evolved us now, so we're, uh, a Blastoise and Raichu, but we were a Squirtle and Pikachu duo for that.
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It was fun.
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hmm.
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you know, you talked about how originally you were doing TCG and, you know, you were inspired by the art.
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When did you first start playing the games?
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Oh, I don't really remember, honestly.
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Um, but I do remember my first one.
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Um, my first Pokemon game was Pokemon Blue, actually.
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even though I was, like, pretty young, I think I was, like, in the Gen 3 era, when, like, I first got introduced to Pokemon, that was still my first ever game, Pokemon Blue.
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That's crazy.
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I would think it'd be like Pokemon Ruby or Sapphire.
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hmm.
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And what do you remember about playing that game?
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Like, do you remember it being frustrating?
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Easy?
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Like,
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Oh, probably frustrating, because English is not my first language.
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and like, like you're kind of confused about where to go to, if you don't understand, like, much of the dialogue as well.
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So I guess maybe give some clarity.
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So English isn't your first language.
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So what is your first language?
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And why was it so difficult?
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I'm from Thailand.
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it also is due to the fact that I was really young as well.
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It was probably when I was five or six, maybe.
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So I guess at the time, you know, English, you were still learning it or, you know, it didn't comprehend it.
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So were you basically like just going to the game, like blindfolded, basically trying to figure stuff out?
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Yeah, I was just kind of getting lost and not knowing where to go.
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How did you navigate?
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Do you remember?
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I think another one of my cousins would, like, watch me play the games too and, like, direct me here and there.
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Pokemon blue, you stay engaged with franchise?
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what did your connection Pokemon stay throughout that?
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As grew up.
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it's been a variety of things, so the games for sure.
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I got into Emerald.
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my neighbors would also have, like, Pokemon diamond or pearl I would be allowed to like, you know, play for them cause they didn't want to grind.
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I'm grinding for them.
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Ha
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then there's the anime and then there's like other games, like super smash pros as well.
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so you said your neighbors didn't like grinding, so I guess you'd like to kinda grind on the games, or like
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Yeah, I would, I would basically do it for them.
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but I was like, Oh, it's Pokemon and I don't have this game.
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So like, I'm happy to be playing it.
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Ha ha ha ha ha! So even still at that point, when you played the games, you just You still didn't have your own copies.
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No, not, yeah, not every copy, so I didn't have like, gold or silver at the time.
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I didn't have diamond or pearl either.
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what generation of Pokemon do you find most appealing to you?
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So, my favorite is Hoenn, the Hoenn region.
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mostly cause I really liked Emerald.
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I like the story, I like the designs, I also have, like, memories of it too, of my cousins playing it and just me watching over their shoulder.
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Noble, so originally you were telling us about how, you know, you entered in through Mystery Dungeon and eventually you got into Pokemon Diamond.
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That was your first game into the main series.
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What about you?
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What generation of games did you find appealing?
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Especially coming from a, I guess, spin off game perspective.
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I'm a big Gassino slash Hisui slash Unova girly.
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Jynx 4 and 5 are like, and then later on with Legends RCS are like my, my bread and butter.
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pieces can tell you, I would run, like Nuzlocke's of Jynx 4 And various challenge runs, or even just vanilla runs of those games all the time back in college, I was running them.
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I've played probably hundreds of hours of diamond, pearl, platinum, black, white, black and white too.
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I think platinum and then Pokemon black are probably two of my favorite games.
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The legends RCS has kind of beat out all of them because I really love legends RCS.
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Ha ha ha ha
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Um, but I just, I like, even, even if they've got their, flaws, like, oh my god, the EXP system in Unova is bad.
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but, they, they are really fun and charming games.
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I like the, the story in Black and White a lot.
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I like the gym leader designs and the pathing in Gensokyo.
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I mean, my favorite Pokemon, Shaman, is from Gen 4.
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so there, that's a, that's a huge win.
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And a lot of my favorite Pokemon are from, Sinnoh
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You bought a good compare contrast between the two because gen four It was definitely like a very big world building generation for me because I enjoyed like how they added like the gods They had a different nature gen 5 kind of built on top of that cuz you got landers You've got thunderous and you forgot the other one.
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I forget about so, uh Tornadoes turn out.
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Yeah tornadoes I always forget that one But you know They kind of built out this world with those two generations and some people consider that to kind of the golden area if you Hargold so silver Yep.
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I love Hargold and Silsilver too.
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Um, that was what I had, uh, because I didn't get to play the original red, blue, yellow, gold, silver crystal.
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Um, because I, I started out basically in the DS era.
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And while I could go back and play the original Hoenn games because of the, DBA slot that the Nintendo DS had, Um, you couldn't play the Gen 1 and 2 games because those weren't compatible, so you, I didn't have a Game Boy and couldn't play them, so, Heartgold to Silver was my first introduction to the Johto region, and, Those are fantastic games.
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I have a lot of fond memories of playing HeartGold, I still have my teams from my original playthrough of HeartGold, Platinum and Black, they're scattered across my various Switch games now, but I still have all the ones that I used in those games.
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Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
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I still have mine too, but I think all of mine are deposited on Pokemon Bank.