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My name is David Hernandez and you're listening to As The Pokeball Turns.
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Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we interview people around the community on how their Pokemon Go journey started, where it has been and where it is currently going.
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The Pokemon franchise is filled with passionate fans.
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Could anybody imagine that an idea centered around bug collecting could evolve into the multi-billion dollar franchise we know today?
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With video games, card games, toys, and apps like Pokemon Smile and Pokemon Sleep, Pokemon is easily becoming integrated into every part of our daily lives.
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And then you have Pokemon Go, where its central idea is to go explore and live out our dream to become a Pokemon master, as if we were still 10 years old.
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Pokemon Go has of course, brought this opportunity to many people with stories about meeting new friends, seeing new places, and even starting content creation.
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On April 14th, 2021, two friends Pokemon Go Journey led them to starting content creation through podcasting with the goal of simply making people sick of listening to them talk about Pokemon Go.
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Little did they know that people found them entertaining and the podcast would still be going strong to this day.
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One tradition the two have on the show is they start with an alcoholic beverage at the start of each episode.
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If you're feeling daring, take a shot every time someone says Pokemon.
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Actually, wait.
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Don't do that.
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You won't make it.
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Nevermind.
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We said Pokemon 28 times in this episode.
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Don't do that.
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But anyway, from Los Angeles, California, he is the co-host of The Wailordz Podcast, here's his origin story into the world of Pokemon Go.
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This is, itslikecrackyo! Today I'm joined by one half of The Wailordz Podcast, Richard.
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Richard, welcome to the show.
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Hello.
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Thanks for having me.
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For sure.
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And before we do begin, I know that whenever you have to record with your Co-host, that you usually have to hold back your Pokemon fandom.
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So I wanna let you know before we record, from one Pokemon maniac to another, you have my permission to get as nerdy as you want when it comes to Pokemon Go today.
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Awesome, how exciting is it's gonna be more trust.
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It's gonna be more than Pokemon Go.
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Well, we'll get there.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I just wanted throw that out there so that way you don't have to hold back.
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I'll probably likely get most of the references you throw out today.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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You'll know every Pokemon I'm talking about.
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That's normally not a thing for me.
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Now, one thing I wanted to ask as well is like, so you're known as, itslikecrackyo.
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So how is how is Pokemon go, like crack for you?
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It's not even about Well, it is, but it's not, that's not even where the name comes from.
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That name came from an old tagline I used to say on Myspace and that pretty much just ages me.
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Ever since then, I used that as my handle for everything ever since, you look it up and going all the way back to there.
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I don't even know if they kind of still active anymore but that was my screen name and that's what I've used for just about everything up to this point until they realized how bad the name might be, so I don't know if I'm gonna change it anytime soon, but at the very least it does apply to Pokemon because I've been playing the game since the games came out.
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It is a very addictive franchise, although it's definitely not related to Pokemon.
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Just me being dumb.
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So we gotta go in and move into the story like, how did you first start playing Pokemon Go?
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When did that first happen?
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Immediately.
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I have the day one, July 6th, 2016, guide and I hadn't even known about the game cuz I remember Pokemon Go stemmed from an April Fools prank situation on Google Maps.
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I don't know if anybody remembers that.
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I think it was in 2014 or 2015 where Google Maps put Pokemon like all over their map and you have to go to different sites to see where they are.
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So then a couple of months later, there was an announcement, because I remember I was in this one situation where I had heard of the announcement and I posted it on Facebook saying, I'm gonna need one of those external battery packs cuz I know this game is gonna drain my battery.
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The game finally came out and I remember I was doing a volunteer intern situation at the time and I went straight to the bathroom and I downloaded it and I was just playing ever since then.
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So you were ahead of the curve cuz I didn't hear about the battery packs until way, way later, back when raids first came out.
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Basically like ultimately, I never got the battery pack, but I just knew I would need it just cuz of how much, that game would be on my phone and running something like that all the time is definitely not battery friendly as most of us know.
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Always plugged in, especially while driving, I mean, while walking, especially while walking.
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So when it came to Pokemon Go, where were people playing?
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were there a lot of people like we saw on the news and everything?
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Like where did you go to play?
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Yeah, I joined those crowds.
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So, I'm from Los Angeles and I went straight to Santa Monica.
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It was packed.
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Other than that, where I live in the San Fernando Valley part of Los Angeles, it's still pretty lively out here, there's not the amount of Pokestops like you would get, like in a metropolitan city, but I have a lot to work with here and when Wayfarer came out, I made a lot more Pokestops from that, so I just play here.
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I play a lot here and there's a lot of spots to grind here.
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There's two big ones one in Valley in this place called Valley Village, it's called The Wall.
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It's next to Los Angeles Valley College and then there's also, the university that I went to for grad school, Cal State Northridge.
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I think that's the best place to play Pokemon Go and I'm sure you've been to a university campus over where you're at, but typically I think most university campuses have some really good grind spots from what I've seen.
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Now gimme some insight, like what is it your community like where you live?
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Like do y'all have a very active community?
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Do y'all do PVP, Raids, what is it like over there?
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I don't know anymore, to be honest.
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Covid really changed everything, I used to be part of this group on Slack, SFV Pogo.
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That was a pretty big community, there were like little factions that played together, there were raid trains that went throughout different parts of the valley.
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Sometimes I even ran my own raid trains because I did do a lot of the WAFU Raiding where you would jump in, I'm sure you're familiar with that.
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I miss WAFU raiding.
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Yep.
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That was a good time.
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Yeah.
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For real, it was wild like if it wasn't a shiny or if it wasn't a hundo, you'd just bounce, it wasn't worth trying to catch and, I was generally pretty active on my side.
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Let me interrupt you real quick.
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So for those who are listening and y'all don't know like what the hell's Wa-Fu?
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So it's not the girlfriend that you're thinking of, Wa-Fu Raiding is usually....
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Wa-Fu Raiding is usually when you basically go from raid to raid.
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You'll usually jump in, wait till the timer starts, or wait till the battle starts, and then you drive off into the next raid.
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And usually by the time you get to the next raid, you're already on the process of trying to catch it or you try to run for it and you rinse and repeat until you get millions and millions of xp and hopefully a Hundo or a Shundo.
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Is that kind of correct?
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Yeah, that's pretty much correct.
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Yeah, it was the best when there was a double XP event going on or a Stardust event going on because you just get, completely busted with all these benefits from the raids, so that was, how our community used to roll around.
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When PVP was also a thing, but I never participated in back then, because back then I didn't like it and, well, I still don't like it, but back then I just never participate in those particular subgroups or sub factions.
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So you talk about how you don't like P V P.
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So how do you play Pokemon Go?
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What's do you collect?
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Do you try to go out and grind?
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Don't get me wrong.
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I said I don't like pvp, but I still play it like a mad man every day but, it's just cause I'm not good at it, that's why I don't like it, but I still like it, but it's just like, it's one of it's a love hate relationship that's about to say.
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Yeah.
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So otherwise, I'm pretty, I would say I'm pretty versatile in how I play the game cuz I'll do the pvp.
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I'm never good, good at it, so you're never gonna see me at a tournament.
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I play the game when I'm walking my dog and I typically walk an hour a day, so I do my daily incense and then when there's a big event, like Community Day, I'm out for those three hours.
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How familiar are you with Pokemon, like where did it all first begin, even before pokemon Go?
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When did it all begin?
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1997 or 98.
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Oh yeah, I
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Day One-er from day one!
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I don't wanna say day one or I'm, I would say Gen One-er, I didn't play the game right away.
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I didn't have a game boy at the time.
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I was still, a little poor.
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and then eventually I did get one and then I got Pokemon and ever since then I was into it and I've been on it ever since.
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Well, no, that's not true.
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I took a break when Gen three came out because I was not impressed with Gen three and then Diamond and Pearl came out and I got sucked way back in.
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Diamond and Pearl definitely just brought me back into this in full force, got hundreds of hours of my playtime, especially what made Gen four a lot more epic was when it was the same generation that saw the remakes of Gold and Silver, which were also very good games or some of the best games.
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Yep.
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Yes.
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They've aged so well.
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Like I wish I could play them or restart them, but I don't wanna mess with my game files but for the most part, like all of those games combined, I don't even know, I wouldn't be surprised if it's like over a thousand hours I've played on all of'em.
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That's easily my favorite generation.
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just cuz it has like everything.
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No, that's fair, like it's hard to beat HeartGold and SoulSilver and for me, I loved from HeartGold and Soul Silver all the way to Black and White 2.
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I loved that timeline of Pokemon history to where I enjoyed all those games, between that, I think that'd be a six year, time lapse.
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Yeah.
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Of just being able to play those six different games like I love that whole entire time span.
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See that's, that's interesting because I actually did not care for black and white.
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I didn't care for Gen five at all.
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I would say I like it less than gen three.
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I still played it just cuz at this point I'm gonna be a completionist.
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I remember times when I would be playing and I'd just be falling asleep.
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I don't remember the story like, for me personally, it felt like black and white was just, I always thought it was rushed but I always just felt like it was a rush game to capitalize off the success of Gen four, cuz the games look still extremely similar.
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Yeah, they do cuz I think at that point, you could tell the game graphics were at their peak, not peak, but
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mm-hmm
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they were at the limit for that system because I think after that, that's when we moved to 3D s and that's when we got X and Y I believe.
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If those games had maybe come on 3DS they probably would've been more well received, but because they came on the DS, it just seemed like it was past the prime of the system they were on and what was available at the time.
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I think it would've definitely benefited from being like a launch game for the 3DS rather than squeezing out another generation onto the DS, but Game Freak makes their decisions, we can only just abide.
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I was gonna say, we just pitch out our money and still buy it anyway.
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Pretty much! Like look at the marketing for Scarlet and Violet, it was pretty terrible.
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They didn't really give much information, but we still went out and bought it
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Do you have a favorite Pokemon at all?
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That is a question.
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I, that is a funny question cuz my partner asked me the same question I would say it's a hard toss up between Charmander and Eevee.
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I'll choose both.
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I actually grew up on team Charmander for the longest time and I think only a couple of years ago, I started getting more into Eevee just because I think there's something beautiful to be said about the fact that it has the potential to be pretty much anything and it can adapt to whatever environment and just become something else.
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To me, Eevee is just like a metaphor and so I think I got really more into Eevee over the last couple years, especially after Let's Go Eevee came out.
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Eventually, playing Pokemon Go and you got into pvp, right?
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Yeah.
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I got into PVP a couple months into the pandemic.
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I still barely understand move counts.
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I barely understand any of the terminology like, break points and then you have to count moves and really know like move counting and what else?
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I rarely ever hit expert, I always hit veteran.
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I don't really know how to make teams, I end up watching a video on YouTube and try to rip off whatever YouTuber is doing and then I end up not doing good with them because they're just a lot more talented than I am.
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So, that's me in a nutshell In terms of PVP, just like admittedly I thought I would've gotten better a couple months after I started, but I still haven't.
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But at the same time, it can be fun.
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That's pretty much how, it led to me doing my own, not my own, but our own podcast because that's all me and my friend do just talk whenever we get together, talk about Pokemon.
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Do you have a particular league you like to battle in?
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Ultra league and open Master League now just cuz if there's any league I know how to move counts in, it's gonna be Master League.
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The meta is a lot smaller, you know, it's just gonna be Zacian, Giratina, Mewtwo, Dialga, well, Dialga is hard to count cuz of Dragonbreath, but you see the same things over and over and over, so I just familiarize myself with those move counts.
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Whereas, you know, you go lower and lower into the smaller leagues and there's the meta is a lot bigger and then I don't really have the time to memorize, not the time or patience to memorize like all these different Pokemon and their move counts and sometimes I can't even figure it out cuz like, let's take Azumarill, for example.
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I know it takes six bubbles to, get to some attack, but like the bubbles are like, you know, they're bubbly so you can't, I don't really know when they start or stop.
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So one thing you mentioned was that when you turned level 40, the game was not as fun for you or you slowed down.
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What about it when you reached level 40 kind of made you stop playing as much?
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I hit level 40, like, what else is there to do?
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That was before levels 41 through 50 came out.
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I didn't think that the XP was gonna roll over, so I didn't need to grind anymore.
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I had heard stuff about new levels coming out, but I didn't know how that was gonna work and I'm like,"I'm not gonna grind, what's the point?" And I probably should have, cause I could have given myself a big step, but I just didn't see the need in grinding out much anymore, I still played a lot, don't get me wrong.
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I don't wanna say I stopped completely like if there was a shiny that I loved that in the legendary raids, of course I was gonna be all over it.
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I just had no motivation to really go out and grind hard anymore, which was great because I was saving myself like two hours again cuz I would, as soon as I got outta work, I would go start Raiding or planning out Raiding and I was just like looking forward to having that time back.
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And then Niantic was like, here's level 50.
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Yeah, but I didn't go back to, I didn't go back to the grinding and that one happened in the middle of the pandemic too, right?
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I think?
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No, it happened before
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It was November, 2019 when that happened.
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Mm-hmm.
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It happened right before PVP happened.
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True! With the new levels, I didn't want to say I went out and grinded it as much cuz at that time I worked in non-profits, so I couldn't waste a lot of money.
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I just decided to to keep it casual, keep it cute, and
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Haven't looked back since?
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Unless legendary that I really want a shundo of comes out, that's when I go ham and I hop into every single raid lobby people invite me to.
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So I know you and your co-host go every community day, Shundo Hunting, is that right?
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Yes.
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Almost every community day.
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Roldy loves the aspect of community more than he does Shundo hunting.
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Sometimes also because, he likes to live in Stardust poverty, he likes to be like on the ground and catching as much as possible instead of jumping from Spawn point to Spawn point in a car.
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So, it's pretty much me and my partner, cuz my partner also plays Pokemon Go and we're the ones who just go out and about to almost every Hundo that comes out, depending on if it's something we want or not.
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Well, I was gonna ask like, how many Shundos do you have if you're willing to share?
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They're Shundo asterisk.
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I know they're not like, I don't spoof, but there's maps or discords that I follow.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, they're not like legit Shundos, but they're my Shundos.
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So, let's see.
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they're basically, they're basically Shundos you got from using a map, right?
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Yeah, precisely.
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Eleven?
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Am I counting right?
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11?
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I got two Machamps, two Garchomps, a Golem, Roserade, Talonflame, Sylveon, Umbreon,
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ooh, Sylveon!
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Right?
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Chandelure and most recently Dragonite.
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Nice.
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I'm very jealous of that shundo Sylveon.
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Sylveon probably one of my favorite shinies with the cotton blue and pink, I believe, right?
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It's mostly cotton blue, there, there's a little pink, here and there, but it's definitely more cotton blue than anything.
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Very cool, man.
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so, I'm gonna play a little game with you.
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There's one thing me and your co-host have in common, and it's that we're mainly stay Stardust broke.
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Mm-hmm.
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I want you to guess what you think my stardust count is at this very moment.
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Stardust count.
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You guys like to live in Stardust poverty.
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I'm gonna place you at, let's say 60,000.
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60 K.
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Oh.
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You may wanna go a little lower
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6k.
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Little lower.
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None.
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No, I'm not that broke.
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Thankfully.
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It's 963.
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What is the reason?
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Why?
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Why?
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Why do you people live like this?
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It's wild.
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So for me, I don't do PVP as much as you guys do you even do more PVP than I do.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, for me, I like to power up my Hundos, so my goal is always to power'em up to level 50.
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I've been doing that since gen two and that's been my lifelong goal and reason for why I never have Stardust.
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Makes sense.
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Wow, ugh, no, I, I mean maybe I'll probably end up being there just because, you know, the way things are going now with Niantic and how XL Candy is quote unquote more accessible and, you know, classic cups are never coming back, but like, I'm always like, I don't wanna power up something to level 50 if it's not a Shundo cuz it's gonna take forever to get those XL candies back.
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No, I mean, that's what I did.
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I have not powered anything that's not a Hondo except for PVP.
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That's basically how I play.
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I don't have a team of Tyranitar, I don't have a team of Mewtwo, I don't have a team of anything.
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I'll probably wait till I get the Shundos cause I'm just like, uh, I don't want to power.
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I already had to power up a Metagross and an Excadrill to Level 50.
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I didn't want to do it because, I'm still holding out for the one day that I'll get a Shundo Metagross and then Drilbur gonna come out and shiny eventually.
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I would love the shiny of just everything and those XL candies are just gonna be a pain in the ass to come across again.
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Well, thankfully, that are more accessible, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
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That's funny.
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Tell another one
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If you know, you know, So you've actually, hinted at your co-host name Roldy and I wanted to ask like, how did you two guys meet?
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I stole him from my boyfriend, basically.