June 7, 2023
TRAINER'S EYE #41 - "Weaving Webs With Pokemon" ft. ScythersKiss
ScythersKiss reflects on how Pokémon GO played a transformative role in his move from Utah to Austin, forging lasting friendships and even sparking a love story. From his early days with Bug Pokémon and collecting cards with his brother to his involvement in PVP and Wayfarer, this interview dives into the diverse experiences that have shaped his journey in the Pokémon GO community.
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00:44 - Introduction
01:36 - Interview with ScythersKiss
09:42 - Intermission Skit
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Transcript
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My name is David Hernandez and you're listening to As The Pokeball Turns! Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns! where the stories are real and people still play this game.
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Known as the live music capital of the world, the city of Austin is home to vibrant entertainment, art, and culture, UT, Hookem horns for you college fans, and an outdoor experience that allows people to create their own soundtrack.
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But wait soundtrack, how do you create your own soundtrack?
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Well, you may not ask that question because who burned CDs nowadays?
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However, it's fun to imagine how our individual experiences can turn into different soundtracks.
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In the same way, our PokemonGo journey is our own, with its own unique twist and turns.
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Now, here's the question, what type of soundtrack would we hear from someone living in Austin, especially in Pokemon Go?
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There's only one way to find out.
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From Austin, Texas, here is his origin story into the world of Pokemon Go.
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This is ScythersKiss! Today I'm joined by ScythersKiss.
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Welcome to the show!
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Thanks for having me.
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For sure.
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Now I gotta ask like, what's the meaning behind ScythersKiss?
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Yeah, so I actually had to pay tribute to my favorite Pokemon growing up, Scyther.
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I'm all about trying to find like fun, clicky names.
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One day decided to just throw some different names out there and, I just kind of imagined like Scyther blowing someone a kiss, I thought that sounded funny.
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I just remember growing up watching that anime and the first encounter when ASH meets the Scyther and I don't know, like growing up as a kid too, like I was really big on, the different insects and collecting bugs and so I, I feel like I'm more of like a.
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Bug trainer deep down.
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Scyther just like visually way more appealing, really attractive.
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I like the evolution with Scizor and now Cleaver.
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I'm guessing Scyther would be your ace, and you said bug Pokemon were your favorite.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Have an attachment to like bug Pokemon.
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I think like growing up as a kid, you know, I don't know what class it was, but they did, you had to like collect bugs for like science projects and things like that and, um, praying mantis are just really cool.
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I was really fascinated with it, so the design was Scyther, obviously they got a lot of inspiration there.
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If you're like a bug gym leader or an elite form member, who would be your squad?
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I'm a big fan of Scyther, Scizor, Cleaver, obviously.
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And then I really like Genesect.
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I like Pinsir.
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I like that it can Mega Evolve into it.
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And I also like Pheromosa.
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I know that it's like more of a glass cannon, but it does a lot of damage, so I feel like it's pretty useful.
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Now, it sounds like you grew up with Pokemon.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah, definitely coming from like a nineties kids background, I just remember getting introduced to it through the Pokemon cards.
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My brother and I, we both collected back in the day and my dad would take us to target on the weekends after collecting all of our money for, from doing chores and we basically just waste it into all the Pokemon cards.
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So I remember hitting up all the, you know, targets and then there was the local card shops that we could go to and part of the craze back in the day, I feel like everyone was into that.
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And so you said you and your brother were playing right?
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Yeah.
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Like my brother, he's just a, like three years older than me.
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We both like collected the cards growing up and unfortunately, time changes and we grow older and, kind of fall apart from it a little bit.
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Back in the day, like with the first, Pokemon cards that came out, my brother was lucky enough to get a holographic Blastoise, right?
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Back in the day, you know, you'd meet up at school or with your friends and show off what you had and like maybe do some trades.
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One of our neighbors actually ended up stealing it from him and, uh, it pretty tragic thing like years later, like as we kind of grew up, like we're actually friends with him, our neighbor, but he confessed to like stealing it from him back in the day.
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So yeah, man, it's, bittersweet with that.
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But definitely a fun experience.
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Did he ever explain why he stole it?
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I think it's just that shiny effect, Blastoise was like one of those Chase cards.
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I think most people wanted the Charizard, but you know, Blastoise was right up there too, and so, you had to have it, I guess.
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The holographic lured him in it sounds like.
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Yeah, man, it's a good card.
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I really love that artwork.
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You know, I'm collecting now, which is fun, and like I've got a really cool Charizard binder that, I'm putting together.
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I know I had a lot of good ones, man, like the vintage and, I imagine, they've been ripped up or thrown away at some time.
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So between when you first were as a child up to go, did you continue to play Pokemon or did you kind of have to stop at some point?
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The Pokemon card was how I got introduced, it was really just that, and then going into like middle school, it wasn't really a fad for me at that time, I kind of just lost that love.
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Pokemon Go, when it came out, like really resurfaced it all and brought me back with that nostalgia big time, so kind of had a big gap in between that like I would say 13, 14, I put it aside and then like kind of came back in my late twenties, so pretty crazy.
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When Pokemon Go came back, what about it excited you?
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Because you said it stir up the nostalgia.
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Was it the idea of maybe seeing Pokemon in the real world?
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Was it just the fact that it was a mobile game?
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I'm a gamer deep down like I've always had A lot of fun playing the Nintendo games and like some different app based games.
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So I remember just hearing all the hype about it, one of my friends told me about the whole like April Fools thing on Google, how they, teased, Pokemon, being at different locations on the map for like April Fools.
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So he kind of hyped it up for me and then I just downloaded it.
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So, you know, let's fast forward to 2016, right?
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Pokemon Go comes out all over the place, you know, people are going crazy.
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Where did you go to play?
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Like, what was it like in your area?
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I'm here in Austin, Texas now, but I'm actually from Utah, I grew up in Orem, Utah, and I just remember when it first came out, I found this like outdoor mall called, Riverwoods, and that was like the best place to play.
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Whoever played ingress back in the day had set up a ton of portals, and so we had like a bunch of gyms and stops and so yeah, that was like the go-to spot, along with some of the school campuses out there.
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Pretty crazy seeing all the, people showing up, news travels quick, like everyone knew where all the good spots were when the game first came out and yeah, Riverwoods was awesome, man.
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I love that place.
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Since you've been in Austin for a while, like what are places to go, like, where are the hotspots to go play?
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I think the most well-known place is the Texas capital.
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That's definitely one of the best like grind areas, lots of players there, like community days.
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The outdoor walking lots of dog parks and stuff by it too.
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That's definitely in South Austin, the place to go.
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But, I'm more in North Austin and there's actually this place called the Domain.
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It's a really great area for outdoor shopping, lots of bars and restaurants, also some like workspace as well.
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So I would say if you're more North Austin, which is where I'm from, definitely the place to be like, just so many great Pokestops and gyms and I've actually added a bunch of spots to it, so it's grown quite a bit.
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So what's the community like out there?
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Like are there a lot of active people like how involved are people with Pokemon Go in Austin?
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I would say we're extremely passionate, very strong community here.
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When it comes to like the PVP scene, you know, we definitely have some big names there.
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And then like any other part of the game, any aspect with raids or gyms, like, I think we had like one of the first raid players to like hit a billion xp, in Austin like, I think he was like third or fourth person to do it.
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And then I think we have like two or three of the top best Gymmers in the world.
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We have a really fun discord as well, PoGo512, so it's very active and yeah, I really think, it's a good place to play.
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So, what's your favorite way to play?
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I like to consider myself pretty well-rounded, if I'm being honest with you.
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I have different phases where like I get really attached to maybe like raiding or PVP or like doing some gyms As of recently, like I'm trying to get the Wayspot badge platinum, so I've been submitting a bunch of like nominations.
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I have that Stephen pose that I really like, I love to keep that as my drip in game.
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I think as of recent I've kind of lost love for it, just it's very time consuming and like I'm kind of doing, more of like the collection part of the game right now, I'm trying to get like the lucky dex filled out and focusing more on like hundos and things like that.
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Yeah, that's the fun part about Pokemon Go is that there's just so many different ways to play and if you get tired of one way, you can try something different.
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Yeah, a hundred percent and like, when the friend system came out, I remember getting really into that like, I think at the time we could only have like 200 friends.
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So I was like, all right, I'm just gonna add a bunch of people, like all over the world and try and like get as much XP from it.
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That kind of got old after maybe like three or four months because you know, you can only send hundred gifts a day, and you can only open like 20 and so if you had like a bunch of other people, right, like I had like another 80 people on my friends list that I couldn't interact with like I had to like send battles to them and we'd just throw in like 10 CP Pokemon and make the battles really quick.
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So it was pretty intense doing that.
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,But it was actually kind of fun because I was able to like meet more of like the hardcore players around the world like I had the chance to like add Brandon Tan in there and like some of the other top like XP players.
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So that was pretty cool, but, definitely not sustainable for me like I don't like interacting via battles anymore, but it did help me gain a bunch of xp.
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Earlier you mentioned how you played, other mobile games before Pokemon Go.
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What about Pokemon Go in your opinion, differentiates itself from those type of games
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I really enjoyed the exploration and the social aspect of it, so I've met so many cool people from this game, I've actually met my wife playing this game, which is pretty crazy.
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I'll have to tell you about that.
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You know, I've been able to meet some really great people and, some really good friends, like being new to Texas, like I literally didn't know anybody and then this game encouraged me to go out and play and like naturally just run into people and just say, Hey, you know, they got their head down looking at the phone.
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You can tell if they're playing or not.
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So, I came to Texas right when the raid feature came out.
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And so that was like a huge lift in the community and social aspect of it.
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You had to like, set up like start times and like raid times where like people would gather and you couldn't do it on your own, even if you like, maybe tried with one or two people, you needed like six or seven people at least to help you.
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So I really liked that part of the game, like being able to meet new people, the community aspect, and then like also getting to know parts of Austin and then also Utah where I'm from like, it's funny, like growing up in Utah, like I stayed to like my area and like the spots I'd only go to and then when I played Pokemon Go, I started exploring like different canyons and parks that I'd never heard of and I had been there for like 20 plus years, right?
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So I really like that part of it like I really know the area in Utah and I know Austin so much better now because of it, which is crazy.
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So you talk about how you met your wife through Pokemon Go, Like how did y'all meet?
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Back in the day, I started to like recruit Instinct players, so I'm team instinct.
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I was all about trying to like get gym control at that time.
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And so I started in the Discord and the local community that I had, I would just start to like announce like lure parties, in the domain.
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And I'd be like, Hey, you know, Tuesday at 7:00 PM we're gonna meet here.
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Whoever wants to join, come out and, you know, let's drop some Lures and play the game and take the gyms.
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And so I actually met my wife from a Lure party.
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She just showed up.
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I think she joined the Discord and another friend of hers told her that she should go and we essentially met from a Lure party and like we'd loop the domain, the four stop area and we'd talk about the in-game news and all the different features that were coming out and so, yeah, it was just, I don't know, it just naturally happened and she was really cool and I really liked her obviously and she liked me and you know, we stayed friends for quite a while and then, we eventually started to do like raid trains and I would be a driver a lot of the time, and so I'd have like maybe three or four people in my car and I'd always try to get her to join me and so, you know, naturally, we just got to know each other a lot better that way and then it evolved from just like playing the game together like, we'd be like, let's go get some food or let's go see a movie.
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You know?
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And that's how it went, man.
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It's pretty great.
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So you talked about how you like to explore your city, but you also got involved with Wayfarer.
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Yeah like, getting so obsessed with this game and like being a hardcore player, you know, I was all about like, how do I get a Pokestop where I live, right?
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Especially with the friend system, being able to send a hundred gifts every day and then, you know, I'm also lazy from time to time, I don't always wanna have to go out.
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I was like, how do I make this work?
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I remember randomly nominating, a garden in my apartment complex at the time.
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You know, it took like maybe six months to a year, I think, before it showed up, and then it just showed up one day.
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So that feeling man was just really cool.
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I actually lived in an apartment complex in the domain.
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So I was like, the domain's already a great place to play Pokemon Go.
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I want to just build it even more.
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That's where it kind of started and then, shout out to Wayspotters podcast.
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I started to listen to them since they've been doing it.
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So I started listening to Jamal and Lachlan and all the tips and tricks that they'd give and yeah, I kind of just took their advice and started understanding like the S-2 cells and all the different placements and the criteria and like, you know, I think at the beginning when you kind of get into Wayfarer, you kind of nominate a lot of like random, They called it coal.
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Right?
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Just like really bad nominations like, I didn't really know and then like, once I honed in on like the criteria on like, okay, you know, dog parks, that's a for sure nomination.
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You should always do that or like pavilions, you know, that's another good one.
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So I'd always like you kind of like flip the switch, right?
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Once you kind of understand like, what could be a nomination.
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And then I just started looking for it, man, like wherever I went, I just got addicted to it.
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So yeah, I'm pretty proud of myself.
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I think a year and a half now, since I've kind of started it, I've had like 30 Pokestops get approved and I think, two gyms in the domain area and I'm talking about a place that was already like, fantastic for playing.
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So it just like continued to build it.
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I like seeing like my in-game name on the image of the photo too like, I know not a lot of people probably even notice it unless they do it themselves.
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It is kind of a nice little, satisfaction I guess, knowing that you have it in there with your name.
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Agreed, like whenever I see the stuff that I've approved, and I see my trainer name on it.
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Like I know that nobody's gonna notice it, but it's like the one of the few things that you can do with this game that nobody could ever really take away nominating that stop because you're the first one to do it.
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That's the one part I love about Wayfarer is that you can manipulate the game board and he really builds stuff that maybe wouldn't have existed if nobody had spent the time to do it.
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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I think they take it for granted, like the community, they love their Pokestops, they love the gyms, but they don't really understand how it's happening, behind the scenes.
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And so like, when you get that gift Or it was like from a nomination, you put in the game and they send it to you, it's just like, oh, there you go, man.
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I got you.
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So was Wayspotters your primary way to kind of learn about the Wayfarer system, or did you look elsewhere?
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I would say it was just like in Pokemon Go, I understood like how you could submit it just from the app, but that was it, like I try to follow the directions that they gave you in game.
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But yeah, it was mainly the podcast I think that really educated me.
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I think at the beginning, like I asked him a bunch of questions, like I DM Jamal, I'd be like, Hey, how do I get this to show up?
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Or like, what do you recommend doing here?
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And like, he definitely helped me out.
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So you come from the outside looking in, you don't know anything about the criteria, you don't know resources, the only reason why you know what you know is because of the Wayspotters podcast, right?
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In your opinion, what are ways that Niantic could maybe help educate or reach out to people like you to better inform you on what's eligible and what isn't?
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I think, you know, having an app similar to like Niantic campfire, like I know they have like a Wayfarer app that maybe is coming, so just giving that full access to anyone in the public would be great.
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You know, if someone's interested in submitting nominations or wayspots, that app could be a really good resource for them.
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But yeah, educating them, I know a lot of the content creators could help with that.
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I think Pokedaxi has been a good influencer in the space that's kind of shed some light on the topic, Maybe getting one of these other mainstream YouTubers, it could definitely help, but it really just comes down to Niantic on optimizing their website and like the Wayfair login and like being able to promote it.
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There's so many ways that they can do it.
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I like the whole community ambassador thing that they're doing, like the Wayfarer ambassadors.
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You know, once it gets to a more polished state, like we could get way more people involved and like, they'd understand how to submit.
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I think the biggest frustration is like, everyone might have like, tried it one time and then like, it either just got rejected or just didn't show up in game.
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So if there was some clarity that they could give there like before submitting the nomination, like, hey, just to let you know, like if you submit this, you know, it's not gonna show up.
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That would be really helpful.
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I don't know how easy it'd be to do that, but something in that direction.
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Well, ScythersKiss, thank you for coming on the show.
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Do you have any last minute words you wanna leave people who listen to this episode?
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Yeah, if you guys, want to add me as a friend, feel free to give me a follow.
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I'm on Twitter@ScottieJibz.
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Definitely enjoy the game and I love helping people.
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If you have any questions about Wayfarer, about Pokemon GO, happy to, shed some light wherever I can.
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For sure, and I'll make sure to leave a link to his Twitter in the description of today's show.
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