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My name is David Hernandez and you're listening to As The Pokeball Turns.
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Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns, where the stories are real and people still play this game.
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Since starting the podcast, I've continued to admire how not only a game like Pokemon Go, but a franchise like Pokemon has allowed people to connect in different ways.
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regardless of age, sex, or race, pokemon is for everyone and the way people connect is truly endless.
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When you think about it, when you choose a starter Pokemon, you aren't just picking your first Pokemon within the narrative of the Pokemon world, you're picking a partner, a friend, someone who will be by your side every step of your journey.
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Maybe the true narrative of Pokemon isn't to be the best like no one ever was, but more so to find your group, your community, a place where you feel like you belong, centered around Pokemon.
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That means the connections with Pokemon is not confined to your local area, but the connection crosses state lines, countries, geographical boundaries, or can be as simple as sitting down with a friend enjoying some tacos together.
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My guest in this episode shares how Pokemon has allowed her to connect to her friends and family, even meeting her future fiance, from different places across the U.S.
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Here's her origin story into the world of Pokemon Go.
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This is Abbielizx3! before we dive into today's guest, if you have any Pokemon GO stories, send them my way to my email at asthepokeballturnspodcast@gmail.com.
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Again, it's asthepokeballturnspodcast@gmail.com.
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Your story might be recreated into a skit or you may even be invited onto the show.
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And that's the plug.
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So let's go ahead and get into it now.
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Today I'm joined by Abbielizx3.
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Abby, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me.
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Now I gotta ask, so is the X three mean that you're three Abby's in one?
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No, that would be pretty cool if I was, but no, it actually was originally a heart because you couldn't put a carrot.
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it's been my screen name since aim If, you wanna go back that far?
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Oh my gosh, that's, uh, early nineties, I think, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it's, uh, it's been a username that's stuck with me
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That's fair enough.
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So one thing that I always bring my guests on is, you know, to talk about like how you started playing Pokemon Go.
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So when did you first start playing?
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Oh man, I love this question.
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So I don't know if you knew this or not, but Pokemon Go originally, originally was actually an April Fools Day thing on Google Maps and that's the idea of where Pokemon Go came from.
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So I've been actually playing it since then.
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it became like a widget online for a while and I was playing it through that.
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I then later signed on to the beta test, when they announced it was coming to the US and didn't get in, and I was really disappointed.
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So I was a day one person for Pokemon Go, but I tried to get on as soon as I can.
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It's, it's been one of those things I've always really loved.
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I love the idea of geocaching.
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So Pokemon Go was like, oh, it's geocaching with Pokemon, your favorite series.
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Now, to be fair, you weren't a day one.
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You're like a day negative 365 since you started liking the day year before with.
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The Google Maps right.
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Yeah, it was the coolest thing like it was an April fool stage joke and it caught so much traction of just, you know, going to New York City and, oh, there's a Mew and it was like, oh my gosh, this is so cool.
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It was a game.
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and I just remember playing it like instead of doing my college classwork, was there's a problem, but it's okay, we ended up all right.
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We, we graduated, so, not too much of a inhibitor in my life.
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It was a lot of fun to play on Google, and then they turned it into like a flash game almost, where you could just do it all the time.
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And eventually I think at Iowa's passing, or the first direct afterwards, Nintendo Direct, they announced Pokemon Go and that this was gonna be an app and I just remember being so excited.
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It was like the best news.
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I was like, oh my gosh, it's a Pokemon game on my phone that involves geocaching, which is a hobby I like.
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This is gonna be the best thing ever.
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So I gotta ask, so you talked about how you did the first, the April Fool's joke.
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How did that work for people who maybe weren't there at that time.
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Can you give like some insight?
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Absolutely.
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So it was when you just went on to like Google Maps, like you were gonna Google search, you know, what restaurant you were going to or what directions you were going, to need for the day These Pokemon would pop up.
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It was like, wait, what?
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Why is there a Pokemon on my map to my destination?
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And I believe your, your person turned into like either a Pokeball or something, so like you knew something was going on in case, you know, you didn't happen to pass a Pokemon or a Pokestop on your way through your, your destination.
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Wait actually had Pokestops on there?
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Yeah, it had like these little stops and you'd spin it, it would be like you recovered HP or you gained xp, or whatever.
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It wasn't items specifically, but it was little stops that you could go to, and a lot of them were like national monuments and because I was in New York City-ish area around the time, a lot of things that had historical value were these stops per se and so it was a lot of fun.
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You got to click around and learn about the area and it was just beta alpha pre inkling of an idea of Pokemon Go.
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when you tried to go catch the Pokemon, like was it instantaneous or did they actually have to do the whole suspenseful of Pokemon Go?
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Oh, oh no.
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It was just point and click.
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Okay.
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So it was very simplified compared to what we do nowadays.
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Yeah, it's, you didn't have to catch, you didn't have balls, you didn't have anything, it was just, you had levels and you had to fill out a pokedex.
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That was really about it, but it was just clicking and that was it.
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Now, let's fast forward to 2016, I guess since you played day one.
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What was it like playing the very first couple days of Pokemon Go?
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Oh man.
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So playing the first couple days was.
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Very strange, because I had just moved to a new city with my parents and so I was getting used to the area.
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And in the area there were no Pokestops, there were no really anything.
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so everything was on the footprint tracker.
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I don't know.
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If all your listeners remember that, where it would say, you know, it was one step away, two steps away, or three steps away.
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me and my, little brother, he's 10 years younger than me, so I wanna say he was probably like 10 or 11 at the time.
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was just walking around the neighborhood with me trying to figure out if the Pokemon was in a certain spot and he would run to a spot and be like, is it here?
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And I'd be like, I don't know.
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I have to catch up to you first.
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Was he running faster than you?
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Oh, much faster than me.
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You know, little kids have a lot of energy and as a teenager I was like, yeah, we can go kind of chill with this.
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So where did you go?
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Like you said you were in a new town right when Pokemon Go launched.
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did you go to like a park or do you remember the area you tried to play at?
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So the area that I played at is near my parents' house, which is actually right on the border of a swamp, a park, a national park swamp.
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so it really was, you know, the tourist center three or four miles down the road or you could drive into the center of town and there was a good bit of, stops and gyms at the time, and that's usually where a lot of people played and that's where I spent most of my time.
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I actually figured out the eight is great trick at that time, that if you drove in a circle, Eight miles an hour, you could spin the stops, which I handed my brother my phone and had him spin and you'd hatch eggs.
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I've never heard it called eight is great, so it's like eight miles per hour
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eight miles per hour, I've eight is great or optimal eight, those are the two that I've heard.
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Wow.
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I've never heard that before.
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That's crazy.
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So that was my early days of Pokemon Go.
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It was a rather eventful experimentation of trying to figure out this new city I was living in.
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And that's probably a good way to explore, right?
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Cuz you get to explore a new area while trying to play Pokemon at the same time.
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Right.
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And it was like this really awkward time because I was moving to Texas actually three months, no, not even what?
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It came out July.
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So I moved in August, I had moved to Texas to go to grad school, so you know, I explored this town that my parents moved to, got comfortable and then, okay, go explore a new place.
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And so that was, really fun.
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You know, that's what I like doing.
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That was the whole purpose of the game, you know, so it made it like, oh, this is, this is so easy to do.
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This is fun.
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Like this is just, I can go for a walk and go find a new Pokestop, cool.
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Like, this is what I wanna be doing.
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Was it primarily the exploration that kind of appealed to you for Pokemon Go?
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it was definitely both.
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Like I love to explore, I love to go new places.
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but I'm a pretty diehard Pokemon fan, always have been.
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I grew up on the games.
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I actually taught myself to read by playing red and blue.
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probably yellow too because I was so young at the time when they came out.
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they were always just such an important game to me growing up and I remember, everybody was like, oh, you still play Pokemon?
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And I was bullied a lot for it.
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so it was a part of my life.
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I kind of kept secret for a really long time.
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And then Pokemon Go came out and, oh, it's cool to like Pokemon and I was like, oh heck yeah.
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It made it way more Exactly.
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It made it way more acceptable to actually enjoy Pokemon, in my opinion.
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Cuz like you, I remember those days to where you got bullied or picked on, if you played Pokemon.
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I was like, why are you still playing this stuff?
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And I don't know if it was worse because I'm a, female.
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Uh, it was a lot of girls don't play games, you know, girls don't play video games at all.
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What are you doing?
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And Pokemon children.
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So it was like a double whammy of like, what are you doing?
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This is, not what you should be doing.
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you know, that's, Not good, and I'm glad I kept with it all these years, and I'm happy to be where I'm at now because a lot of adults have Mickey Mouse and I have Pikachu.
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I just have a different mouse.
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That's a good way to look at it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, we see all these adults who are like Disney World and Mickey Mouse ears and you know, they'll have a mean comment about Pokemon and it's like, but you're doing the same thing.
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You know, that's a very good comparison to where a lot of people, you know, who grew up on those old school Looney Tunes, Mickey and Bugs Bunny is kind of their, I don't say idol, but they're kind of, it's their mascot of their generation.
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For us, it's Pikachu.
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A lot of us, it's Pikachu.
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Right.
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And there's nothing wrong with either side.
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Like you can love Mickey Mouse.
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There is nothing wrong with that.
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But it's so funny how some people will pick and choose what's okay and what's not.
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in the end it's all the same thing.
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Let's just like a character in a series we enjoy and not reign on people's parades.
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Now I wanna go back on something you just said a while ago.
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So you said that Pokemon, red, blue, yellow that actually helped you read?
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Yes.
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So I was, uh, I guess I was four when they came out.
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I've always loved games.
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My parents were, into gaming.
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We had an NES growing up and like, I remember my first games playing Duck Hunt and Mario Bros on the NES.
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I always loved it.
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So when the Game Boy came out and I had to have it, that was the one thing I wanted.
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It's all I asked for.
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and my parents were divorced at the time, so having a game console didn't really work because traveling between the houses, it was like, oh, you know, now I don't have my games for the weekend and I'm bored.
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And you have a million things to do, but you're bored.
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Right.
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And so I wanted my games with me.
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That was just who I was.
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That's what I wanted.
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And so my parents were like, okay, let's get her a game boy.
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So I remember, and I have pictures of it for my birthday, I had gotten Aladdin, the Lion King and Pokemon Red.
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I'd gotten Pokemon Red for my mom because it was to stay at mom's house, and I got Pokemon Blue at my dad's house because it stayed at dad's house.
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I was always traveling between parents' houses, so it was, you know, like, oh, that three hour car ride, I'm gonna play three hours of Pokemon.
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I remember trying to, you know, the lights on the street trying to see my screen.
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and my parents still think that's why I need glasses is because I was trying to look at my game boy, while I was in the car between houses.
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even to this day, I still get both games.
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I'm fortunate enough to have a partner who likes Pokemon, so I don't have both versions myself, but you know, I still always have both versions of every game.
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So did you stick with Pokemon throughout the entire generation?
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Like from one to present day?
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pretty much I would say yes.
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and a long story short, the ones I do not really remember because I was On the way out and would play them in secret and not really play them much was Gen four.
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Gen four is kind of where I fell off.
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Platinum, Pearl and Diamond.
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and then there was that long break where there wasn't really any games for a while, so I kind of got lucky and didn't really miss anything.
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So when black and white came out, I think I was in high school about to go to college and it was like, ah, whatever, you know, who cares?
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I had my own car, I picked it up.
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Nobody had to know.
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It's like, you know who, who has a secret hobby of playing Pokemon?
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You know,
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You talked about how you grew up ashamed of Pokemon like a lot of us did.
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What helped you finally come to terms to accept that, Hey, I'm a Pokemon fan, this is what I enjoy.
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combination of, I stopped caring what people think, which I think is a great skill that a lot of people should learn to acquire.
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also it kind of became cool to like Pokemon.
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I don't know when it happened.
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I don't know what caused it, but all of a sudden this switch flipped and hey, it cool to like Pokemon again.
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And I don't know if that's because society is really like embracing those geeky.
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And nerdy habits and, I don't wanna say habits, habits isn't the right word.
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Those nerdy and geeky interests.
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Yes, that's a great word.
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Interests.
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it's okay to like anime now, but you know, if you talked about Dragon Ball Z or Sailor Moon, 15 years ago, kids would've pointed and laughed at you and been like, you're weird.
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But now it's like, why didn't you watch that?
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And it seems like if you talk to anybody online or even in the communities, it's like, oh yeah, I grew up watching that.
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And it's like, why did we make it seem like this was such a weird thing to do?
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Because everybody was doing it.
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Like we're all in the closet about Pokemon.
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We just, we're all making fun of each other for no reason.
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Yeah.
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You know, I, and I mean, granted, there are people who, you know, Pokemon is not their thing and that is fine, but of everyone I talk to these days, like I don't hear anybody that's been a loud and proud Pokemon fan throughout at all.
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I hear a lot of, oh, I was, you know, people made fun of me.
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I was bullied.
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It was childish.
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You know, a lot of us really kind of receded into this closeted hobby of playing Pokemon and it didn't need to be, but for some reason we were made to feel that this wasn't a good thing to be doing and it was wrong for doing it, even though we all did it anyway.
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Right now, I will say that, I mean, I've interviewed a couple people.
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The younger ones, the Gen Z'ers, from my experience, they didn't go through what we had to as millennials.
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they seem to have maybe embraced it from the get go.
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Now, maybe I could be wrong cause like of course I'm not that age, but for the most part it sounds like whenever I've ever, I've talked to them, they don't seem to be familiar with our struggle.
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Yeah, and I think I think of that too because I was, like I was saying, there's a 10 year age difference between my siblings and I.
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my brothers love Pokemon to this day and their first game was black and white.
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I actually took them to GameStop.
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They had birthday gift cards left over and I made them by Platinum and Diamond at the time.
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And I said, I want you guys to play this.
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I really think you're gonna like it.
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And of course they did.
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that's their favorite game to this day.
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You know, you ask them their favorite Pokemon series and game in the series and it's platinum and diamond.
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and so, you know, I knew that, for them, they didn't have to go through this phase of, oh, it's not cool to like Pokemon because when they started like Pokemon, they were still kids.
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And as they grew up into adults, it became, oh, it's cool to like Pokemon again.
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I showed them the original anime, you know, I remember watching Pokemon 2000 with them, and they were like, that's the coolest movie.
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And I'm like, I.
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Yeah, I saw this in movie theaters.
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Guys, you have no idea.
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Make me feel like a fossil.
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You did what?
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You know, 2000 was forever ago.
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I it was at this point, you know, but,
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people born in 2000 and old enough to drink, that's how long ago it was at this point.
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Oh, goodness.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, It definitely was one of those things that I feel like I kind of showed them Pokemon when they were growing up and because that happened and they grew up kind of where it became cool, they didn't have this disconnect of being shameful of Pokemon like I feel like the millennials did.
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Do you have a favorite Pokemon at all?
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Oh gosh, I have a bunch, but my favorites are kind of random.
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I don't
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me, gimme, try to gimme a top five.
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How about that?
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Okay.
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My top five, I would say Lunatone.
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Lunatone.