Jan. 17, 2024
TRAINER'S EYE #73 - "A Scrafty Bass Riff" ft. AstroZombie954 from Beginner to Winner PvP
In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by AstroZombie954, a Pokemon Trainer from Florida and the co-host of the Beginner to Winner PvP podcast.
AstroZombie954 shares his experience with Pokemon GO and getting into Pokemon GO PVP. Starting out learning about Pokemon GO PVP, he desired content that was more entertaining for both experienced and newer Pokemon Trainers.
Afterwards, AstroZombie954 shares how he started the podcast with those values in mind and eventually adding on the other co-hosts over the year. He even dives deeper and talks about the decision for the podcast to branch out into other avenues within Pokemon, including Pokemon VGC and Pokemon TCG.
Finally, we play a throwback game from the Beginner to Winner Podcast, "Astro's Top 10." Listen toward the end to find out the prompt and which Pokemon he chooses!
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Trainer's Eye is a series where the stories are real and people still play this game. From PVP to Shiny Hunting, each person's Pokemon GO journey is unique and we dive into each journey here on As The Pokeball Turns!
Sources
Opening Song: "Forget You" by Alex_MakeMusic from Pixabay
Connect with AstroZombie954: Website
Connect with David Hernandez: Linktree
E-mail Me: asthepokeballturnspodcast@gmail.com
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Transcript
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My name is David Hernandez, and you're listening to As the Pokeball Turns.
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Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns.
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Before we dive into this episode, a core member of the Pokemon community lost their home due to a house fire.
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Thankfully, the family survived and are still recovering at the time of this episode.
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If you're able to help, consider leaving a small donation for the family.
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Instructions and links will be available in the description of this episode.
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we remain in Florida to hear from the person where the idea of the Beginner to Winner podcast originated.
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With what he calls a smack to the face, he started a podcast for Pokemon Go PvP, with the goal to make it fun, informative, and understandable for any Pokemon trainer who listened.
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Over time, the podcast has grown and only recently started to branch out to cover both the TCG and VGC sides of Pokemon.
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Here is his origin story into the world of Pokemon Go.
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He is the co host of the Beginner to the Winner podcast.
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This is AstroZombie954.
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today I'm joined by the quote unquote founder of the BTW podcast astroZombie.
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Astro, welcome to the show.
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Hey, Thank you for having me.
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Absolutely.
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And, I use that word founder loosely.
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Because originally it was kind of came out of your noggin, right?
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It was your idea to start it?
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Yeah.
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it was just something I was like, there's nothing going on like this, that I could find.
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and, I was just like, well, why don't I do it?
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Now, when you say, like, nobody's finding, so, in regards to just, like, doing PvP at all, like there was no other PvP, PvP podcast,
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yeah, so I got into like Pokemon Go PvP right as I guess like the Go Battle season and I was like, Oh, this is pretty cool.
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I really like this, but I sucked.
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Like I was bad, bad.
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I didn't know anything like what Pokemon to use, anything like that.
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So, I did what any typical person does.
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I went on the internet and was looking up, videos, which there weren't very many, And then I was like, well, maybe there's podcasts.
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Like, somebody's got to be talking about this.
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I found Pokemon Go podcasts, There was one, at the time that focused primarily on PvP called Battle Science.
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So, like, that was, like, the one I listened to, and I was just like, I wanna do something like this, and this sounds bad, like, I'm not trying to, like, knock them or anything, But, like, in my head, I was like, I wanna do this, but it, be entertaining.
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like, not that they weren't entertaining, they were just very knowledgeable, and, I don't know, like, I like to laugh.
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I like to have fun.
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I like a lot of that mixed in to what I'm learning and what I'm, discussing.
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that all comes down to, like, I'm, a sports person.
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I was really into AM, sports radio.
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and down here in Florida, we have, Well, now he's like national and whatever, but, at the time he was on a local AM station.
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His name was Dan Levitard, and he had a drive time show.
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and I listened to it every day on my way home from work.
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I remember at one point, me and my sister were carpooling to work.
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I would make her listen to it, and she wasn't a sports person at the time, and next thing I know, like, she's listening to it, and I'm like, Why are you listening to this?
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You don't really follow sports.
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She's like, it's just entertaining.
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Like, I enjoy listening to them talk about other things, but it also makes the sports part entertaining and makes me want to find out more about it.
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So, when I decided to do the podcast, that's what I wanted to do.
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I wanted to make it entertaining where, if you were driving in the car, like, oh, this is another reason.
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Me and my wife would carpool, like, she would drop me off at work and then pick me up, and it was almost like a 45 minute drive back and forth.
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And I would make her listen to, like, my podcasts, and she hated it, like, it was just, she was just like, this is so boring, like, whatever.
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And I was like, I want my podcast to be able to, if the actual avid listener was listening to it with their spouse or, coworker or friend, like, it wasn't like, They couldn't have something to enjoy as well.
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which is why we do, like, some of the silly games and, talk about life and all kinds of stuff and don't just, like, keep it strictly to Pokémon.
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so yeah, I was just like, well, either do it or you don't, and I just did it.
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and almost three years later, we're still here.
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It's interesting that you say that because You know, people will look at the length of your podcast like oh my gosh, it's a three hour podcast like Joe Rogan length podcast.
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But when you listen to it actually, like you said, that vibe comes out to where it's not just Pokemon Go.
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Y'all kinda get Not, I don't want to say y'all get off topic, but y'all kind of branch out to
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Oh, I de rail.
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I de rail all the time.
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I was trying to give y'all some credit, like, I can feel what you're going for in regards to, like, playing Biotard and trying to just find that way to bring PvP to more of a basic human level, if so you will, because it's easy to get lost behind the terminology, behind the numbers, and behind all that stuff.
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yeah, I wanted it to be as informative and make the newer beginner person feel like It was a safe place for them to learn and talk and whatever, but it also was advanced enough that those higher up competitors didn't feel like we were dumbing things down for them.
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So, that's where, like, the good mix between me, Dino, and Wildcat, and Matthew, like, that all just combines to hit all those different layers or, tiers of players.
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now that we're going, beyond, Pokemon Go into, like, TCG and VGC, putting that, that accessibility for anyone, to listen to it and be like, Oh, okay.
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I'm like right where he is, so I don't feel so bad.
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That's the thing we transitioned into the discord and everything was just a sense of everyone being comfortable to ask the Astro question is what we would call it.
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Like the stupid question that isn't stupid.
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There's probably 15 other people who are asking that same question just no one wants to be that first person to ask it, because they're afraid, oh, we're just going to get made fun of, and when we did the discord, like, that was like, number one, like, this is a zero tolerance for anything like that, like, we do not put anyone down for questions, we're there to help everyone get better at whatever that is that they want to get better at.
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It's just, the Discord has morphed into so much more than just PvP and it's, it's awesome to see it, like, it's awesome to hear people, like, calling it a family, which is what I've always wanted it to be.
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I never cared about, popularity, or fame, or, obviously fame if I'm not going to be famous doing a podcast, unless I'm Joe Rogan or something like that, it was never about that, it was never about money, doing a podcast does not create a very strong revenue, so, it was never anything about that, it was just about helping everybody else, get to where they want to be and feel comfortable, doing it.
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I'm guessing, still doing it three years, people got over the fact that our shows are three hours, at first we were a little, hesitant about it, and we were actually gonna change it at one point, because a lot of the comments and a lot of things we heard was, wow, this is three hours, this is so long, blah, blah, blah.
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We actually, like, seriously thought about just cutting it down to an hour podcast.
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we polled, Twitter, and I believe the Discord did And surprisingly, the majority of our, like, avid listeners didn't mind the three hours.
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They actually liked it.
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They actually got mad at us if we didn't hit the three hour board.
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They said, no, not over three hours.
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Anything over three hours is too much.
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But, anything under two and a half, like, they're like, nope, this is not acceptable.
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Oh my gosh, they have expectations
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they have expectations.
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I love how you said family, like the Discord community is your family in a way.
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you think about just real briefly the three years from when you first started with just you and Dino to now you have all four of you and the big Discord community.
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What goes through your mind to see how much the podcast has grown over these past three years?
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Sometimes I still don't believe it.
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when you create, when you start something, like I had been in bands before, stuff like that where, you put your heart and soul into like the music and five people show up to your concert, your first show, and It either progressively gets bigger or gets worse, and, I was exposed to that, like I knew that, but like I look at this and I'm just like, It just like throws me back, to think that people like actually want to listen to what I have to say, or maybe not what I have to say, they just want to laugh at me for something, and if I'm making just somebody laugh, and someone who's having a bad day feel a little better.
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Regardless of it being about Pokemon or something, like, that is more important to me than anything that comes with the podcast.
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Like, it's weird when people come up to me and are like, oh, you're Astro?
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And I'm like, oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, people listen to me.
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They know me.
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Okay.
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All right.
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but it's amazing.
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And then hearing, like, some of the stories people say, you know, send us, and things like that and, we talk about it, we say it in the show, like, oh, we're not crying, you are, whatever, like, just hearing people talk about, not even, like, getting better, but, like, how it helped them in their own personal life, feel better about themselves.
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That's incredible to hear, like, people saying, like, this is finally, like, a place, a family, that I can go to, like, where I feel comfortable, like, how many times, like, when you were growing up, you were like, I know it's not cool to be in high school and like Pokemon,
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Hmm.
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I really like Pokemon, you know, And it's awesome.
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I love our community, like, I always say it's more than a community, it's a family, and, it's even better because once you've developed that relationship with your listeners and your fans and stuff like that, they are a lot more forgiving when, life gets super busy and you can't be as involved as you would like to be.
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it's one thing that I always feel bad about is I cannot be as active as Wildcat and Dino sometimes in Discord.
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Like, I just I've got way too many kids.
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got a business, like, that I have to deal with.
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and all the behind the scenes stuff and making sure things get paid and all the behind the scenes stuff that, you doing a podcast, like, you gotta pay for hosting, and you gotta pay for this, and you gotta pay for that, and, oh, we're doing three hour shows, so now we gotta pay a little bit extra for our recording site because we go over the limit of, like, the basic ones, so now it's like you gotta pay corporate prices and stuff, and it's like, uh, I try as, as hard as possible.
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to, if not be active, at least know what's going on, so that if, something comes up when we talk about it on the show, I'm not just like, Now, if it's news, if it's news about the games, yeah, yeah, I, no, I don't read that, I don't read that shit at all.
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Like, that is A hundred percent, not a character, that is a hundred percent, I do not and I've never looked at Pokemon Go news until we record the show, as we're recording it.
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So you get a live reaction of Astro
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Yeah, it's, that's all real, that's all real.
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The TCG stuff, no, I, I study that one a little bit more, cause I don't want to sound like a complete imbecile, and I don't have, like, Dino, Wildcat, and Matthew Smarts to fall back on if I say something wrong.
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cause we're all still learning that part too.
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that's all real.
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Like, what you hear Astro on the show.
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if you've hung out with me at any length of time, you can ask Lyle who's, spent many days with me at regionals and stuff like that.
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this is me.
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Like, that's just who I am,
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So you know, you talked about Pokemon trading card games, is that your first experience with Pokemon?
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Originally, yes.
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Like, me and my brother had cards, stuff like that.
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Never knew how to actually play the game.
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It was just always something, like, I watched the anime.
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I just liked Pokemon.
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I just liked what it was about.
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I felt that, the whole basis of the show of family and friends and, Being there for one another, like, that was such like a big part of my family, that watching it on TV, like, it was just like, okay, I could understand it.
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but I didn't actually play a Pokemon game until Pokemon Snap came out on, I believe it was the Nintendo 64.
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That was my first actual Pokemon game that I ever played and, I really didn't play a main series game outside of maybe like emulators until Sword and Shield when it came out on the Switch, cause I never had, I didn't really have a Game Boy.
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I had like the bigger systems, like, I had Nintendo, I had Super Nintendo, stuff like that.
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They never put out a Pokemon game on those until, Pokemon Snap came out and I was just like, oh, well.
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Try this, this looks fun.
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Was it fun?
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No.
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No, It was, it was entertaining for like the first couple days that I played it, but then after that it was just like, eh, I'll go back to playing Tony Hawk.
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So you mentioned how you and your brother would play TCG and that's your first experience as well as the anime.
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So would you and your brother play the trading card game together or were y'all just mostly collectors?
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collectors, we would, you know, oh, I got Charizard, or oh, I got this, or oh, I got that.
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and we played like, yeah, like, the typical, like, Okay, my Pokemon has 100 HP and it can hit your Pokemon for 80, so my Pokemon is better than yours.
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Like, that was like, that's how we played.
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We'd like, put our cards together and like a pile, and like, we didn't, we took all trainers out, no energies, anything like that, we're like, we don't know what that's for, so.
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And you, you kept it face down, it was like war.
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That's what I was about to
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flip it over, and whoever had the stronger attack and the better HP, they won.
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Heh
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So would y'all do it until the deck out or
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Yeah, yeah, until, it was just, we played it just like war, eventually someone would run out of cards, So, that's just what, how we played it, we didn't care, we didn't, I didn't know that there was an actual rules to the game until, I was older, like an adult, and I was like, oh wow, People compete in this, and this, and there's, there's rules, and then, Yeah, about 2016, I got back in, like, When I say get back in, like, I got a little, like, more Involved, with Go.
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I was also working at Hot Topic at the time, so, that makes it a lot easier to be a nerd.
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when you're being paid to be a nerd, too.
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Um, and, Pokemon Go, when that came out, was like a huge thing for Hot Topic.
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we did Pokemon Days, where everybody had to dress up.
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And, yeah, things like that.
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But we weren't allowed to play the game in the store.
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Nobody was allowed to play the game in the store.
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Because It's like walking through a warehouse and people were just running into like shelvings and displays and,
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was the craze pretty serious for Hot Topic?
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Like a lot of people would come dressing up to do stuff like that?
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when we did like the thing for Pokemon Day right after Go came out, like yeah, people would come like dressed up and we had like things for them like, little giveaways or whatever.
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I don't know if Pokemon was ever like, officially partnering with Hot Topic, cause we never had cards or anything like that, and None of our shirts that we sold actually said Pokemon Company on it like it was always just like Another brand that Put, the Pokemon things on it.
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But, you know, we had stuff we gave away And It was cool, it was fun, I remember, getting off of work at like 10 o'clock and then going with like a bunch of the employees and we'd go to the park across the street and play until like 2 in the morning, and then my wife would call me saying where the fuck are you, you need to get home, stop playing this stupid game, uh,
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were addicted it sounds like.
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I was addicted, I was playing every day until like late, and it was just to catch stuff, I didn't know about anything else like at that point, And then I got a little bit back into the cards at that point, I think that's when like the GX Pokemon, like, and stuff like that came out, I remember playing on TCG Online, the Nightmarch Mill deck, where you just try and get a whole bunch of Pokemon into your discard and then you just use Joltik To just knock everything out because it did like a ridiculous amount of damage for every Pokemon in your discard that had Nightmarch on it I just remember playing that Online, but like nothing serious or anything like that Until like I got more competitive with the ghost stuff and then Slowly, moved over to TCG.
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It sounds like you kept with Pokemon throughout, but the TCG side, even through Go, it sounds like.
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Yeah, I've always liked the cards.
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I've always liked whether collecting it or anything like that.
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My kids collect, them, even before I started playing, like my wife is still, like, I'm so tired of seeing Pokemon cards everywhere, like there's Pokemon cards all over, like that's just, our family has always been a Pokemon family, like, I made all the kids watch the anime when they first, were watching TV and had no choice but to watch it with me.
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But then they started loving it and like, my middle son, and youngest son are really getting into the TCG stuff.
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they're playing on live every time, they're with me, we're trying to play cards and stuff like that.
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So, like I said, Pokemon is about family, and, being there for one another, and I just take that and transition it into real life.
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That's so awesome.
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I love how Pokemon's allowed you to connect with your kids because it's a very good bonding moment as they grow up to where y'all
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for sure.
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almost game night kind of thing it reminds me
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Yeah, yeah, but it's game, like, all day.
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It's either, it's either Pokemon, or they're, asking me to play Fortnite with them, so.
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They're very lucky that their dad is a nerd and, like, enjoys all that stuff, cause, my dad wasn't.
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I, I didn't have, you know I don't want to say my dad wasn't cool, like, we didn't have like anything in common in that front.
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he hated my style of music, he didn't understand, he didn't play video games, anything like that.
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I was just like, listen, if my kids think I'm a nerd and are embarrassed of me, I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna change.
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They just, like, love it, like, they tell their friends, Oh, my dad's going to compete in a Pokemon tournament.
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Like, Like, they're, they're cool about it.
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Like, they're, they're happy and they tell people about it.
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Like, I don't know how long that'll last, but,
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So, you know, you talked about how y'all were, playing Pokemon Go in the streets till 2 to 3 AM with the wife calling you, right?
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Did you keep doing that over and over or keep playing Pokemon Go throughout or did you take a break at some point?
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At that point, my oldest son was almost two.
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and my wife had gotten pregnant with our second son.
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I played pretty hardcore until September when my son was born and then after that, I was like, okay, I'm on dad duty.
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Like, we got baby number two, like, I put it down.
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I would take them, you know, like I take the kids on walks or something like that and play like as, we were doing walks.
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and it was just like on and off throughout there.
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Like, when my kids got a little older, we started playing it again.
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I didn't really start taking it seriously and like seriously playing it until like the PVP part came out.
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What was it about PvP that enticed you to come back into the game?
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it gave me something to do besides, collecting.
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I looked at Go as, like, cool, like, oh, okay, I get to collect these Pokémon, but what do I get to do with them?
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Like, it's just like, they're just there.
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and then when the, raid started, I was like, oh, that's cool, but, if I go to my park and no one's there, I'm not getting the Pokemon that's in the raid cause I wanted the legendaries, you know, who wants to go raid Pikachu.
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Nobody.
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Like.
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Ha ha
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Unless it's a
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ha ha Yeah.
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Um.
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Ha Ha ha ha ha.
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Some people.
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but uh.
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Yeah, it just, it gave me something to do.
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and then, like.
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the pandemic hit, shortly after, Go Battle League started.
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And that was just like, okay, well now, like, I have nothing to do.
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Like, alright, I can do this.
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and then I hate being bad at things.
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Like, I don't mind being, like, mediocre, or okay, but I hate being bad.
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Like, losing is not fun.
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I wanted to get better and then, I ended up meeting, Dino and the podcast thing just kind of went and I'm still not great, but, I can still play.
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You've been listening to as the Pokeball turns.
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We're going to take a quick break.
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We'll be right back.
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how'd you meet Dino?
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I was part of a local Discord down here in South Florida, and somebody was posting some type of, new Discord server.
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It was kind of like, like a factions style, like way before.
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It was like, I forget, it's like called Pyramid something, I forget and I was like, oh, that sounds cool, I want to play like I want to play in something like that.
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It would be nice to meet people locally, because your team had to be from your area.
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I got with them and Dino was the guy in the whatsapp chat.
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It was just like everyone called him coach, everyone was watching his videos like you could tell he was good and he knew what he was doing.
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he wasn't my first choice for a co host, the original co host, ended up right before we were gonna start recording, backing out, due to like some work stuff, and just wasn't gonna have the time.
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So I still wanted to do it, And I asked him and he's like, I don't know anything about podcasting, but I like Pokemon Go, so yeah.
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Okay.
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We could talk about it.
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he was like, I don't know, what do I do here?
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What do I do that I was like, I dunno, just get a microphone and we'll talk
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Right
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and, we had a couple other people join us here and there, but, until Wildcat joined, you know.
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And then it just kind of just evolved into what it is now.
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still like it to be bigger, but, you know, little, little
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another co host.
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Yeah,
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So originally it started with you and Dino with the podcast and supposed to be a third guy, but he never showed up and you're rotating through other people at the time.
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yeah, so we did actually, if you listen to episode zero, there was another person on there.
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and, we go to record the first episode.
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So, Like, I've got everything set up, like, we're ready to go, and just like, nothing.
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Like, radio silence.
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No one could get a hold of him.
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Dina couldn't get, I couldn't get, no one could get a hold of him.
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So I was just like, you know what, let's just do it, like, I already told my wife we're recording, like, I'm already doing this, it's already set up, let's go.
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