March 6, 2024
TRAINER'S EYE #80 - "A Toast To Raids & PvP" ft. HMLondon
In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by HMLondon, a Pokemon Trainer from Los Angeles, California who is passionate about Pokemon GO PvP, particularly Master League.
HMLondon shares his Pokemon journey starting with the early days of Pokemon which included the games and the anime. HMLondon eventually returned to the franchise with Pokemon GO and would host Legendary Raids for his local community. He gives insight to how he would host community drives for food pantries, animal shelters, and other causes.
HMLondon eventually gives insight into his transition from hosting Legendary Raids to hosting an audience with Pokemon GO PvP. One of his favorite leagues is Master League and he strives to compete with the best Pokemon and best Pokemon Trainers in the world!
Finally, HMLondon participates in a returning segment called "What's That Pokemon?" You don't want to miss this segment as HMLondon tests his Pokemon knowledge!
Trainer's Eye is a series where the stories are real and people still play this game. From PVP to Shiny Hunting, each person's Pokemon GO journey is unique and we dive into each journey here on As The Pokeball Turns!
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Transcript
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My name is David Hernandez, and you're listening to As the Pokeball Turns.
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Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns.
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Our journey takes us to Los Angeles, California where we meet a Pokemon community leader community on Ray Trains.
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Eventually, he transitioned over to doing PvP with a particular focus on Master League His love for the game and Pokemon has inspired others to follow him and even allowed him to host drives that would go to a particular cause every month ranging from homeless shelters, food banks, and animal shelters.
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Finally, make sure you listen toward the end of the episode to hear the return of an old podcast segment that you don't want to miss.
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Here is its origin story into the world of Pokemon.
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This is H.
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M.
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London.
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Today I'm joined by royalty, a Monarch from Lala land, HM London, his majesty HM London.
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I grovel at your presence.
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Thank you for coming on the show.
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You're completely welcome, and no need to be so formal, London is perfectly fine.
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Okay.
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Well, for those who don't know, the reason why I say that is because HM is actually a reference to majesty, right?
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That's how, what they used to call back in the day.
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No, it's his, it's his high maintenance, you didn't know?
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No, I didn't.
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Wait, ah,
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I'm joking, no, no, no, it's his majesty, you're correct.
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oh my gosh.
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what made you want to choose that name?
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why HM London?
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so I am a huge nerd, huge history nerd, and have a, like, I would say an above average in advanced knowledge in, like, royal history from around the world, and so, as you said, H.
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M.
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denotes His or her majesty and obviously London is such a common name that I couldn't just be London in the game So I put the HM in front of it
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Do you ever get the idea that people think it's like HMs, like from the Pokemon games at all?
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people have asked that question before, but one of the funniest things that have ever transpired as it relates to my name is I went into Fleece King's stream before and he saw my name and he was like, hmm, London.
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So he was pronouncing the HM as hmm instead of individual letters.
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Oh, that's very interesting.
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So he'll go, hmm, London.
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Yeah.
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Hmm, London.
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I could see that.
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I could see that.
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But yeah, people generally just.
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call me London just naturally, which is interesting
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So, you know, part of my podcast is learning about people's experience with Pokemon and the franchise.
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So, what was your first experience with Pokemon?
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well, I grew up on Pokemon when I was a young kid I was particularly drawn to Pokemon, in the 90s, like the mid 90s, and, I used to run home from school to guess who the Pokemon was, like, for some reason that was the highlight of my day, to try and guess Which Pokemon was being, you know, you know the who's at Pokemon and then it'll go to a commercial and come back and tell you who the Pokemon was.
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I got, I got a high, that was a highlight for me to be able to accurately guess which Pokemon it was that was displaying.
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So I grew up on Pokemon and I was super excited about, Pokemon growing up.
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We used to go to Walmart and I would be in the checkout line and I'd see the Pokemon cards, and I would really want one of those shiny holographic cards.
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Most of the time I didn't get them and then as I started collecting cards and growing up I started collecting them more and more don't know where those cards are today.
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And then of course in 2000 and I think it's 16.
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Yeah 2016 Pokemon Go came out and I didn't join the first day because I didn't know about it but I started feeling a lot of people post photos online of themselves with like Pokemon characters in the background.
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I was like, what is this?
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How are they doing that?
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And I found out about the game three days later and been hooked ever since.
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Now, did you ever have any experience with the Pokemon games at all?
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Oh, I did.
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I forgot to mention that.
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So.
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I will never forget, I got a a Game Boy Color, it was the purple one, purple was my favorite color.
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I was so excited because I got Pokemon Blue, that was the first Pokemon game I got and I sat there for hours and hours and hours playing that game.
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I really wasn't into the internet back in those days, so I didn't know that, like, you could, like, look up, so the story I'm trying to get to is, like, I spent hours in the safari zone looking for a Chansey.
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Never found it.
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Even to this day, I still never found a Chansey, and I didn't know like, you can go online and find out clues and tips to help you, like, you know, get through the game.
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And so, I kind of got frustrated and, the game defeated me.
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So, I never really did well with the Game Boy games.
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But I did get one.
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I got, Pokemon Blue was the one I was, that was the one I got and I never did well with it.
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When you mean like you didn't, well, you didn't do well with it.
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Like you never was able to complete the Pokedex or it was
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Right, I never was able to complete the Pokédex, I never was able to catch if I'm not mistaken, Articuno was there in the cave.
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I never was able to, like, really beat the game, per se, and so, I kinda just let it start collecting dust, and it was just a wasted, gift at that point.
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It wasn't like today where I know I can go and get information, so yeah, that's something I regret.
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That's why I like Pokemon Go so much, because you, a Pokedex, you have so many opportunities.
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Different types of opportunities, like shinies, you have extra large Pokémon, you have, different regions, and so the quest to complete the Pokédex always continues, but it's a lot simpler these days than what I felt like it was, or it's a lot more engaging and fun than it was back in that day, so I love it.
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Last question before we dive into Pokemon Go.
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You never mentioned which starter you chose.
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So, for those games, which starter did you choose between Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle.
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I'm pretty confident that I chose Squirtle.?
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I've always had an affinity for water types and Psychic type, they've always been, like, my favorite.
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Blastoise was my favorite as a kid, and Alakazam was a favorite.
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I love those two Pokemon.
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anytime I saw Blastoise on the anime, I was, super excited.
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And Alakazam too, because they were just so amaz they were like so strong and powerful and I don't know what it was about it, and I think it was because Charizard, we kind of always saw Charizard, I didn't really love Charizard that much, and I'm not really a grass type kind of guy.
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Squirtle was my starter.
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Nah, I feel that.
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I especially loved Alakazam because it was just so strong with the Psychics like, I feel like I beat the whole game just with Alakazam.
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Exactly, and then he carries a spoon, like he's always ready to eat ice cream, or rice, you know, he's like, he's just like, so resourceful, I love that about him, you know?
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Right?
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That's so underrated.
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It's like, if you ever need a spoon, and you just need some ice cream, it's perfect.
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Alexander's your perfect buddy to go get some frozen yogurt or ice cream or whatever you believe in on that part.
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Bro yo, you're speaking my language, for sure.
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What flavor?
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What's your flavor for Froyo?
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uh, okay, don't, don't, don't kill me cause I'm so boring, but I like just like the tart, the tart flavor, and I like adding pineapples and blueberries, and that for me, it's so simple, but perfect.
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eventually, you know, Pokemon Go comes out in 2016.
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As you alluded earlier, you know, you started playing the game.
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How, dedicated were you to the game?
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Like, were you hooked?
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Were you just, like, somebody who came in and left the game?
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Oh no, I've been hooked since day one and I hit the ground running.
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So interesting story about that is my cousin and I, we were the same age and she started playing the game from day one and she chose team valor.
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so when I first picked up the game, I didn't know how to catch.
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I didn't know how to catch, didn't know how to throw the Pokeball.
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So I kept walking around trying to figure that out.
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And guess what?
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My first Pokemon was actually Pikachu.
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Oh, really?
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my starter was Pikachu and I, guess I found the Easter egg in the game, not really trying to find the Easter egg in the game.
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But yeah, I, I didn't choose one of the three starters.
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I ended up getting Pikachu by accident.
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but yeah, I chose Mystic and you know, my cousin and I used to go.
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like every chance, even after work, during the week, every single chance we could in Santa Monica and all over the valley catching Pokemon.
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I have not looked back since I started playing this game all of those years ago.
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What is it about Pokemon Go that's kept you engaged for this long?
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Because it's not common to see people who've played the entire lifespan so far.
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You're right, it is in common.
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Um, I think it definitely is the community.
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I started a Facebook group, within like the first month of playing the game and I started meeting friends in the local area here in San Fernando Valley, and we started like just doing different things together in the game.
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Those friendships developed, those friendships grew, and over the years, you know, the friendships changed, you know, different goals have changed, and we traveled more with the game, and so the community is the central element for me.
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being a member of the community and a leader of the community, because I started doing that, I kind of, I don't want to say fulfill the responsibility, but I was always at a different level in the game than most people, and it was always an amazing experience to showcase that level to other people and to usher in the people who wanted to be on that, same level too.
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As well as kind of help people who are struggling in the game find, like, how to break through and, start having the same kind of enjoyment in the game that I was having.
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do you want to share the love of the game that you had to other people and try to get them involved
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exactly, because I would meet people and they would say, Oh, how do you, where did you find this Porygon or Chansey?
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they didn't have a clue of like, you know, where to catch them or, when gems came along, you know, I'm getting kicked out of all my gems.
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Where are you all out?
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And, you know, the different scenarios would change.
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But yes, sharing my love for the game with other individuals who maybe didn't have that same passion because of whatever circumstances that was always really, really fun to see.
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for those who are curious?
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So you were actually a raid leader for a brief period and you would host raids in certain parts of where you're from.
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Is that correct?
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It was not a brief period, it was for a long period.
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So from when Raids first came out for years, it was like, I'm pretty sure it was like two and a half years, three years that I was a Raid leader, only after Remote Raids came out and really kind of just took over the game is kind of when I stopped doing it because the game kind of changed at that point.
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people didn't want to raid in person as much anymore, but yeah, definitely was the person that was coordinating raids and driving all over San Fernando Valley to raid.
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And it's so funny how that evolved, you know, when raids first came out, I think we achieved something like 10 raids in one day, and we thought we were so amazing and awesome.
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And then towards the end.
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Of my tenure as I would say the captain of the L train, that's what we call my raid group out here in the valley is, we were doing a hundred and twenty raids in a day.
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So, yeah, definitely was a raid leader here and did that for years and I don't know how, because today I don't have the stamina to do it.
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That's how I felt Cause we had a healthy raid group here and I joined my friend And I couldn't do half a day, hardly like I was worn out.
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I'm like, I'm kind of done rating, but back then before covid, I'd be like you to where we would grade constantly over and over, over day in and day out, and it was perfectly normal.
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But nowadays, I just can't do that anymore.
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I don't know what changed.
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Yeah, I think we kind of matured a little bit and we're like, wait, why am I doing this?
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you know, it's interesting.
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I used to wake up at 6 a.
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m like I would be out raiding already at 6 A.M and I would go all the way to 9 p.
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m Sometime and I just don't know how I did that But I did that for a long time and not only was I rating I was coordinating So I was telling people to be here at 11 o'clock and 11 10 and 11 22 and I mean it was Mentally so much work, but I enjoyed it so much because again, there are people who couldn't take down a legendary.
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They had never been able to catch one and I would catch it for him or I would help them defeat one and, you know, their daughter's account.
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They wanted, you know, they were trying to get one is so many different stories I have.
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But yeah, it was, the love of that.
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Those interactions definitely, fueled me and kept me going for all of that time.
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My last question in regards to the raids, part of, your time in Pokemon Go.
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How do I get a Hundo Lugia?
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Because you have a Shadow Hundo, you have a regular Hundo, and you have a Shundo Lugia as far as I know of.
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what's the secret?
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How do I get a Hundo Lugia?
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You know, everybody has that one Pokemon that just really loves them, and I don't know why, but Lugia just happened to love me, and Lugia was the first Shundo that I got.
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And it's so interesting, the story behind that Lugia, so I used to coordinate not just raids in my area, but I was also a community leader here too.
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And so we used to plan all of these events.
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So during community day, we used to have a cause that we championed it.
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So, like.
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I don't know, in August we would do back to school supplies, the next we would do homeless, um, donations to the homeless shelter, and one we would do donations to the pet shelters and stuff like that.
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So, anyway, it was one of these community days after we had done, a major, major, major drive, and the very first raid that we did after community day was a Lugia.
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And it was a Shiny, and I was screaming.
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I was like, Oh my God, this is a Shundo.
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And this guy, he was riding in my car with me.
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He was new to Pokemon Go.
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He didn't understand what Shundo meant.
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He didn't understand that there were attributes associated with these Pokemon, and that this was like the most perfect Shiny that you could get.
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He had no clue until like a week later.
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He was like, Oh my God, I just understand what you mean when you say you got a Shundo Lugia.
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So.
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I still remember that to this day, and you know, I was streaming Pokemon Go.
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I was doing my battles on stream, and I kept avoiding actually doing my Giovanni, interaction.
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So I decided just to do it on the stream while I waited for people to come in.
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I had about 40 people in my stream waiting to start doing my battles and I did my Giovanni quest and I was catching my Lugia.
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I was about to catch my Lugia and one of the people in my chat said, that's a hundo.
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And of course, people in your chat, they always try to troll you and like make you think you got something good when it's really garbage.
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Lo and behold, this person was right.
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I caught the shadow.
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I caught the shadow, hun, on stream,
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Oh, wow.
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and that completed, you know, I had the regular one already and I had a shiny one.
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And so this one was the shadow hun, and I was just like, I was mind blown.
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I kind of sat there for like 10 minutes just staring at it.
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'cause at this point, shadow raids hadn't happened yet.
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And so this was like literally the rarest thing you could get.
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You know, I felt so special for like two years and you know, until they started, you know, so they came out and then like more people have it.
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But yeah, Lugia is that Pokemon that loves me.
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Lugia and Giratina are the Pokemon that really love me a lot and they don't mind showing it.
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So, you know, I think you just need to find your Pokemon.
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It may not be Lugia, but it may be Ho-oh or it may be Dialga, So you just gotta find whichever Pokemon really treats you well and go after it.
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Oh, I found it.
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It's Regice, because I got it within five raids.
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Ha,
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See you know, that's the kind of stuff that makes me mad.
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I'm like, why do I have do 600 and you do five?
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Well, what's good thing is that, uh, for Lugia, it's actually one of your favorite types.
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It's psychic, right?
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it's like, and Lugia is an amazing, like I just go back to the the cartoon where he was like, you know, in the water and while all the birds were fighting and, you know, he tried to come out and bring order.
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It's just, and he could talk.
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It was just such a cool Pokemon.
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Lugia is like, and his design is so cool too.
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so I do like Lugia quite a bit.
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He's up there in the top, five, at least.
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you know, you talked about how you did drives Like, what kind of work went into trying to do that?
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Because that seems like a lot of coordination and a lot of time to invest in the community to kind of do stuff for the homeless and do stuff for, you know, the other people like that.
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Yeah, it's it definitely took a lot of work.
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I leveraged being a popular member of the community and being a leader already to my advantage.
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And I figured if we're out here.
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And I can get, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this, if I can get a hundred people to show up at an Articuno raid, then why not turn that hundred people into a hundred people donating an unwrapped, toy For the holidays for kids in need, you know.
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So yeah, I wanted to turn that influence into something good because I used to think to myself like, dang, we're going to all these places to do these Raids and all these business owners are getting upset, coming out, yelling and screaming.
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Let's try and do something to return to do something good.
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Let's, let's turn this into a positive.
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And so, I want to say Tyranitar was the first community day that we did a cause.
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I still have photos of it, it was, it was literally hundreds of people at the Great Wall of Los Angeles right by Valley College.
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we had two trucks full of food.
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We did a food pantry was the first one.
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I was like almost teary eyed.
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I was like, this is mind blowing to me.
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And so you have, an unsuspecting food pantry opening the door, realizing that they're getting two truckloads worth of donations.
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And they are asking like, How do you all know each other?
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And we tell them Pokemon, and they just cannot believe it because they, in their mind, people who play Pokemon are crazy.
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Or people who play Pokemon are, They have an idea of what that looks like.
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And we all were.
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Yeah, we are, but see, that crazy was a little bit of good that they couldn't deny, you know?
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And that's one thing people don't understand when I try to tell them that I play Pokemon with, such a wide variety of people.
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I have friends from this game from every walk of life, like, we probably would never really be friends outside of Pokemon, or we, we would have probably never met outside of Pokemon, but, like, I have friends that are doctors, and they're researching cures for cancer, I have, Friends who have been on game shows for molding, sculpting, and I have people who just have regular day jobs who are doing great in their job.
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It's just amazing to me, the variety of people that I met during this game.
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So back to the community, yeah, It took a lot of work to plan and it took a lot of work to really find balance in what causes to, pick for each month because each cause doesn't speak to each person the same way.
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So trying to find something that, get people to be engaged every single month.
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That was probably the hardest part.
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But, We were able to do it and I think our biggest drive was the pet drive.
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I think everybody, like everybody in some capacity likes animals.
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So, that was probably our biggest drive to date.
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And, I kind of miss that now that I think about it.
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mean, very admirable because it's easy for me to imagine anybody saying, Hey, I can get 100 people to do this and kind of get obsessed with that power.
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But for you to kind of turn it into something good for the community, not just Pokemon Go, but just your own Los Angeles community.
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It's pretty admirable and pretty powerful and I think shows the potential that Pokemon Go can bring to people that I don't think we sometimes realize until somebody like you comes and mentions it.
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That's true! You know I I really wish I would have, Youtube it, or recorded some of these raiding things, because there have been times, you know, most of the time I was just too busy planning the next one to really appreciate what was happening.
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But there were times where I would literally look at all the cars lined up at a raid and think, You are the person that brought these cars here.
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Like, they only know about this place right now because they were following your car.
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Or they were following your instructions to get here.
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